Yes, unless your hosts are small, or your guests are huge.

10 guests would only need 2 hosts for redundancy purposes.

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On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:24 PM, David Mazzaccaro <
david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com> wrote:

> How many VMs are you able to run on each of your 3 hosts?****
>
> With only 10 physical servers now.. I am wondering if 3 hosts are going to
> be overkill.****
>
> Even with a play/test environment of another 10 servers…. Are 3 hosts a
> waste?****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2012 1:05 PM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!****
>
> ** **
>
> Yes!****
>
> ** **
>
> By physical boxes, we'll presume a box that's running as a DC, and not
> your hosts as Scott pithily responded... :-)  And you may as well run a
> physical box for your vCenter if you're going to maintain a solid box for
> DC.****
>
> ** **
>
> The idea behind physical boxes, is it gives you something to authenticate
> against and bring your environment back online.  At your size (three hosts,
> which is what I'm running) you probably don't need it, and can authenticate
> into the hosts and then start the guests that way.****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:30 PM, David Mazzaccaro <
> david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com> wrote:****
>
> Speaking of domain controllers, I am being told 2 different things...****
>
> 1) ALWAYS keep a single DC physical.  You can certainly have virtual DCs,
> but you must have at least 1 physical.****
>
> 2) Virtualize everything you can. You don’t need any physical boxes at
> all.  Period.****
>
>  ****
>
> Thoughts?****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, April 16, 2012 11:55 AM****
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!****
>
>  ****
>
> *>> Single "thing" to point backups at - I believe you have to backup
> Hyper-V boxes individually?
> *
> No, you don't have to back them up individually.   Lots of 3rd party
> options here.
>
>
> *>> No dependency on the domain being present which can put you in a
> "fun" situation if you have to power everything off and on again.
> *
> Your Hyper-V server need not be a domain member.****
>
>  ****
>
> *ASB*****
>
> *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker*****
>
> *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market…*****
>
> ** **
>
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Paul Hutchings <
> paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk> wrote:****
>
> I've only used VMware so I'm more than happy to be corrected here, but in
> no particular order:
>
> Single ISO takes you from bare metal to working server.
> No third party drivers needed for things like MPIO and NIC teaming.
> Single management tool.
> Single management server (vCenter) gives visibility to your entire VMware
> infrastructure.
> Single "thing" to point backups at - I believe you have to backup Hyper-V
> boxes individually?
> No dependency on the domain being present which can put you in a "fun"
> situation if you have to power everything off and on again.
>
> Outside of usability you then have:
>
> Pretty much any virtual appliance you care to name will come natively in
> VMDK/OVF format
> Tons of vCenter add-ins
>
> I'm very interested in Hyper-V with Windows Server 8 and for us the timing
> falls nicely with our SAN and server refresh, but honestly the only reason
> I can see for looking at moving would be license costs - VMware works out
> expensive if you have more than a few hosts and want more than the basics.
> ________________________________________
> From: John Hornbuckle [john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
> Sent: 16 April 2012 3:39 PM****
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!
>
> Is the consensus that VMware is easier to use than Hyper-V?
>
> I've only used the latter, so I can't judge.
>
>
>
> John
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk]
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 9:36 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!
>
> I'd assume ease of use and market leader.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
> Sent: 16 April 2012 14:16
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!
>
> Someone else asked about this, but I didn't see a reply (although Postini
> frequently blocks messages from this list)... What factors led to you
> choosing VMware over Hyper-V?
>
>
>
> John Hornbuckle, MSMIS, PMP
> MIS Department
> Taylor County School District
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Mazzaccaro
> [mailto:david.mazzacc...@hudsonmobility.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> [mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Fri, 13 Apr 2012
> 08:38:47 -0700
> Subject: Hooray, I'm moving to VMware!
>
>
> > Just got the ok to move forward with VMware/Citrix/Domain upgrade.
> > I have 10 physical servers, and it looks like this will be the
> solution:
> >
> > 3 hosts: ($21k each)
> > HP DL380 G7 E5660
> > Pair of 146 15k drives mirrored
> > 196 G RAM <- this was $45k alone
> > Quad port gig adapter
> >
> > 2 Switches: ($1,800 each)
> > HP 2910
> >
> > 1 SAN ($22,700)
> > NetApp 2240
> > 12 x 600GB
> >
> > VSphere Essentials Plus ($5,200)
> >
> > 6 Windows licenses ($13,600):
> > Server 2008 Datacenter
> >
> > Windows/Xenapp licenses ($26,000)
> >
> > $40k services
> > Install/config SAN, switches, hosts, VMware, new Citrix farm, 2008
> > Domain upgrade, P2V existing servers
> >
> > Total: $185,000
> >
> > Sound good?****
>
>
>

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