Do you have a suitable repalcement for PGP Whole Disk Encryption that
includes centralized management and SSO capabilities?


On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:32 AM, James Rankin <kz2...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> No, the first rule of Symantec is you don't use any of their products :-)
>
>
> On 8 November 2012 16:23, Steven Peck <sep...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The first rule of Symantec is you don't talk about symantec
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Robert Cato <cato.rob...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> It is SEP12, I'm sorry I do not know the definition file, that is
>>> handled by the security group...and they don't really want to talk about
>>> Symantec right now.
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Erik Goldoff <egold...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>>  curious, SEP 11 or 12, and what definitions when this happened ?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>  On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Robert Cato <cato.rob...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, all on its own. Granted this was based on setting that were made
>>>>> during installation, based on recommendations from the onstie Symantec
>>>>> vendor/engineer.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Kennedy, Jim <
>>>>> kennedy...@elyriaschools.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>   “SEP quarantined the files and then went to all machines on the
>>>>>> network and quarantined them on all machines…”****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Holy smokes, it decided to do that on it’s own? And quarantined the
>>>>>> machines that had NOT been updated yet?****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So glad I don’t run AV.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Robert Cato [mailto:cato.rob...@gmail.com]
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 08, 2012 8:45 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Symantec %@(*&OI:TNGF(P*****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ken****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These two updates were only installed on a couple of Win7 machines at
>>>>>> most. They were approved during the day for install overnight, a couple 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> users saw the pop-up and installed. SEP quarantined the files and then 
>>>>>> went
>>>>>> to all machines on the network and quarantined them on all machines 
>>>>>> (Win7,
>>>>>> Vista, and XP).****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be nice if we had a separate network, but I'm not sure that
>>>>>> will get approved.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 6:41 AM, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com>
>>>>>> wrote:****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even if you don’t have a separate network, you can create a separate
>>>>>> group in WSUS, and put a test machine(s) with your SOE image in that 
>>>>>> group.
>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That would allow you to test patches prior to mass deployment.
>>>>>> Checking for AV issues would be just one thing – I’d recommend that you
>>>>>> have some test cases for all your important apps as well.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ken****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Robert Cato [mailto:cato.rob...@gmail.com]
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 8 November 2012 9:48 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Symantec %@(*&OI:TNGF(P*
>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ken,****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That was my first question, but it is still unanswered. I am still
>>>>>> new at this %dayjob%. ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In this case, the testing would have had to be done in a separate
>>>>>> network, which I am fairly sure we don't have. I will take that 
>>>>>> suggestion
>>>>>> to the table when we analyze the breakdowns of this incident.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com>
>>>>>> wrote:****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No matter who you migrate to, you’ll also run into issues (false
>>>>>> positives seem to occur all the time, with all vendors).****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you test the patches before releasing to Production? Might be
>>>>>> worth beefing up the testing regime.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Robert Cato [mailto:cato.rob...@gmail.com]
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 8 November 2012 5:22 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>>>>>> *Subject:* Symantec %@(*&OI:TNGF(P*****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FYI****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We approved two MS patches yesterday (KB2574819 KB2592687) in WSUS.
>>>>>> One user installed the two updates in the afternoon and Symantec Endpoint
>>>>>> Protection 12 with several advanced features enabled (threat protection,
>>>>>> hurestics, SONAR, etc). SEP quarrantined 15 system files, run32.dll among
>>>>>> them. The real problems started when SEP decided to quarantine the files
>>>>>> across all ~600 workstations taking us completely offline.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The fix was to boot each workstation into safe mode and removing SEP.
>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was a long night.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The good news:****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> None of the advanced features were enabled on the servers.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are migrating away from SEP as of this morning.****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ****
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