Not really, I use the extra memory for the extra OS's I am Vming. Not
because I really need more than 1GB for XP ( 512MB for OS) (512MB for
applications). 

Now we all know that developers (well most) aren't coding securely, and
don't care how much resources there application take up, as long it
runs. I agree there is bloat and crappy coding in the M$ OS, its evident
with the patching that is needed to be done by admin's each and every
month. People code, and people aren't perfect therefore crappy,
bug-filled, unsecure code will exist for a long time to come. 


Z
Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed

I don't think price is the point. I have 4GB on my workstation so I can
run
VMware workstation. Is the reason for needing so much memory just code
bloat or crappy coding?

Original Message:
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From: Ziots, Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 09:42:01 -0400
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed


Hell Memory these days is cheap. I got 4GB in my XP machine, and will be
running Vmworkstation and a few hacking tools from home on 2k8 and Nix
Os's in VM's, and still runs like a champ. 

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
Phone: 401-639-3505

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Why XP is doomed

It has just become ridiculous how much memory you need for a
workstation. I
remember upgrading workstations to 32MB of memory and then 64MB and we
thought that was a lot.
Servers back then only had 1-2GB of memory. I remember the old Novell
servers running with 512MB of memory.

Mike

Original Message:
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From: Jon Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 09:29:37 -0400
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Re: Why XP is doomed


Amen.

Jon

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Michael B. Smith <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You could run Windows 2000 Pro in 64 MB. It really liked 128 MB, but
64 MB
> worked fine.
>
> Couldn't do that with XP.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith
> MCSE/Exchange MVP
> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:16 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed
>
> Funny,
>
> I have to disagree with XP needing 2X the memory Windows 2000 does, I
> ran both Windows 2000 and XP with 1GB RAM on same machine with no
> issues. ( Win2k SP4 Pro, then wiped and rebuilt with XP SP2, still
fine
> performance)
>
> Its when you short-change the system with like 512MB and through a ton
> of applications on the system that are memory intensive is when you
run
> into issues.
>
> If that is one favor you can do with any Microsoft OS, DON'T skimp on
> the RAM, your computer will be happy you did, and you will too.
>
> Z
>
> Edward E. Ziots
> Network Engineer
> Lifespan Organization
> MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
> Phone: 401-639-3505
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Houston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 8:59 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed
>
> But ever new OS needs drivers.
> Every new os has always had greater requirements than the last.
> Vista has had issues, oems providing quality drivers being one. Vista
> compatable being another.
> XP neeed double the memory of Windows 2000. XP sp2 needed double again
> over XP sp0, and broke hardware if the bios was not up to date.
> It has its good points and its bad points. I use it and would not go
> back.
>
> Regards,
> David Houston
> Dame Computers Ltd.
> Office: +35312873159
> Mobile: +353876810844
> Suppprt: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Matthew W. Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
> Sent: 11/05/08 08:44
> Subject: RE: Why XP is doomed
>
> Hold on there... If an OS requires new drivers and more horsepower...
we
> can't blame the new OS?
>
> Oh yes we can.
>
> --Matt ross
>  _____
>
> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>  Vista wasn't perfect out of the gate, but it's not the piece of junk
>  people think it is, either. A huge reason Vista has a negative image
> is
>  that the hardware OEMs have been releasing buggy drivers for it--if
> they
>  released drivers for it at all--and have been shipping Vista
computers
>  that either don't have enough horsepower or are bloated with crapware
> or
>  bad drivers (or all three). It all adds up to a bad experience for
>  users, and the OS gets the blame.
>
>
>
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