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Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -----Original Message----- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Processor Cores, and Windows Version questions Windows will use all available cores, regardless of the version. If you have dual quad cores, it's still only two processors, and that's what defines the Windows version you buy, even though windows sees 8 processor cores and will use them all. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -----Original Message----- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Processor Cores, and Windows Version questions So basically if I am reading you correctly, if I had Dual-Quad Core processors, to Windows its really only 2 Processors, even though it would look like 8 in windows, thus I could use Windows Standard Edition, and still get all the processor benefits. If I was using Quad-Quad Cores which is most of my SQL systems now, even through its 16 processors logically its still only 4 Processors to Windows and still could use Windows 2003 Standard Edition? Ot would I need to push it to Enterprise edition. What I am getting tripped up on is the number of processors that Windows Sees and can they use them all. ( basically relating the cores within the processors to additional processors that windows might not be able to utilize because of the 8 processor rule for Windows 2003 Enterprise edition, but in this case if I am reading it right, a quad-quad core is still only 4 processors thus using Windows 2003 Std would still work) Can you confirm my logic on this one Michael. Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -----Original Message----- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Processor Cores, and Windows Version questions It will utilize based on SOCKETS. If you have a quad-core two processor machine, that's still SQL standard. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms143760(SQL.100).aspx -----start quote----- SQL Server supports the specified number of processor sockets multiplied by the number of logical CPUs in each socket. For example, the following is considered a single processor for purposes of this table: A single-core, hyper-threaded processor with 2 logical CPUs per socket. A dual-core processor with 2 logical CPUs. A quad-core processor with 4 logical CPUs. SQL Server is licensed on per processor socket, and not per logical CPU basis. -----end quote----- Same is true for Windows Server. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -----Original Message----- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Processor Cores, and Windows Version questions Again I got the licensing stuff down, I need to know physically what Windows will see, and utilize. I am getting more and more Quad-Core (2 and 4 Processor) machines and I want to make sure that I am ordering and specing the right OS ( Standard VS Enterprise 32bit Windows 2003/2008) Z Edward E. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -----Original Message----- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:05 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Processor Cores, and Windows Version questions No. Windows licensing cares about SOCKETS, not cores. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -----Original Message----- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Processor Cores, and Windows Version questions TO the list, I am trying to correctly, wrap my head about the relationship between the processor min/max specifications on Windows 2003 Standard, Enterprise, and Datacenter. MY specific question is this, and my google fu and MSDN have failed me. If I had a Single Dual-Core processor its going to look and function as 2 Processors in Windows, therefore I can use Standard edition without an issue. If I had a Quad Core (Single) processor its going to look and function as 4 processors in Windows, therefore I can use Standard Edition without an issue. If I had 2 Quad Core Processors, its going to look and function as 8 processors in Windows and I need to utilize Enterprise Edition accordingly to get all the processor support. If I had 4 Quad Core Processors, its going to look and function as 16 processors and I need to move to Datacenter Edition? Here are the resources I have when I am hashing this out. REFERENCES: Memory Limits for Windows Releases http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778.aspx Memory Supported by the Editions of SQL Server 2005 http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms143685.aspx Maximum Number of Processors Supported by the Editions of SQL Server 2005 http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms143760.aspx Maximum Capacity Specifications for SQL Server 2005 http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms143432.aspx Microsoft SQL Server and Intel Hyper-Threading Technology http://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobuy/SQLonHTT.doc Microsoft SQL 2005 Licensing Whitepaper http://www.microsoft.com/sql/howtobuy/sqlserverlicensing.mspx Microsoft SQL 2005 Features Comparsion. http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodinfo/features/compare-features.mspx Can I get a witness or some confirmation I am going down the right path. 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