Ballpark pricing for the 'beginner' SAN package, you're looking at about:

 

FAS2050 head                                          £5k  (2 needed for 
clustering/redundancy)

Disk shelf with 14 x 300GB disks,     £17k (Just need 1 disk shelf, but could 
for instance add....) 

Disk shelf with 7TB SATA disks,        £13k  (... if you want more cheaper 
slower space)

 

Software, per head (so x 2 if you've got clustered)

SnapManager software for SQL backups               £10k  (sorry don't have a 
price for SnapManager for Virtual Infrastructure yet)

SnapMirror & SnapVault                                               £8k  (for 
replicating/backing up to another NetApp over WAN)

NFS enable                                                                      
   £5k

CIFS shares enable                                                          £3k

(Sorry, I don't have iSCSI or Fibre Channel enable prices)

 

3yr Support & Warranty package                              £25k

 

 

Course we get well and truely ripped off here in the UK so US peeps can 
probably just change those £ signs to $ and get a good estimate these days.  
And NetApp seem quite 'flexible' with their pricing, so go in hard and bargain 
the heck out of them.

 

Excellent site for some pricing in US $ is:  
http://storagemojo.com/storagemojos-pricing-guide/ .  

 

Hope it helps,

 

Steve.

 

 

 

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 11 September 2008 18:11
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: NetApp SAN For Virtualisation

 

Model and $$'s?

On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Steve Burkett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Very incorrect. NetApp filers can be used as simple NAS devices if you
wish, providing simple Windows network shares on an NFS based system if
you wish. You see it as a server joined to your Active Directory domain,
you browse to it and see the shares.

.. or you can do the full bit level LUN thing to use it as a SAN type
device. Enable Fibre Channel or iSCSI with a license key, partition up
your disks, give your VMWare host server a chunk of disk to play with
formatted with VMFS. Either way works.

The deduplication features of the NetApp seem to work best with NFS
however, and the killer feature on the NetApp's, their snapshot based
backup and restore, likewise. With the Snapshots feature you can do a
full backup or restore of 30GB+ databases or virtual machines in 3-5
seconds (!). Particularly if you use the new SnapManager for Virtual
Infrastructure product which is VMWare aware and plays nicely with it,
you can do your backups of live enviroments in a very small backup
window, and restore far far quicker then conventional methods.

There was a Webcast from NetApp the other month where a customer (one of
Europe's biggest health care providers) was converting over to using NFS
from iSCSI based LUN's for their VMWare farm as it was proving just as
quick performance wise, much quicker to backup, and much simpler to
manage. They had gone from Fibre Channel to iSCSI previously.

With VMWare offering more and more support towards NFS, it seems to be
the way things are going.


-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 September 2008 00:51
To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: RE: NetApp SAN For Virtualisation

Ok, let me ask a clarifying question ... Isn't NetApp a NAS (Network
Attached Storage) and NOT a SAN.  Their NetApp filer boxen run a
proprietary
file system, not the same as a SAN connected box running the native file
system (NTFS)

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 8:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: NetApp SAN For Virtualisation

Just looking for some feedback. Is/has anyone used NetApp as their
backend
in a VMWare solution?

We've had someone in this morning talking to us about going down the
virtualisation road and their backend SAN solution is NetApp using NFS.

I know lots of you (already virtualised people out there) are using an
EMC
solution with iSCSI (and or possibly FC) but I haven't heard much of
NetApp.

Pros/Cons? Steer well clear of etc etc would be a good starter for us.

TIA.


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