My 6 year old has an iPod, but to be honest vendors give me usually a couple per year, so she gets hand me downs.
From: Bryan Garmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 6:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iPhone update - how long does it take? Your 11 year old son has an Ipod and a cell phone? And now an ipod? On my. From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 9:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iPhone update - how long does it take? After getting the iPhone and setting it up for my son, I have to say, I won't have one... at least not the current version. It is no comparison to the Blackberry for business use. The iPhone is difficult to type on, the Activsync is troublesome at best, and it is just too big. I will stick with my 8310 curve. I only use my iPod when flying and the iPhone and iPod touch don't have enough storage, so the benefit of an "all in one" is lost on me. However, my son seems to enjoy it, but he is just 11. (He gave up his 8310 for it...but he was tired of carrying a phone and an ipod.). I am looking forward to trying out the Bold, but it will have to be pretty nifty to make me give up my Curve. (nifty. does anyone say that anymore? I must be showing my age) Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 7:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iPhone update - how long does it take? I don't get that at all. My wife wants an iPhone bad, but lack of voice dialing and no stereo Bluetooth (It's still not stereo, correct?) just blows my mind. I just don't get it. I guess my wife won't care anywhere near as much as I do. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 12:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iPhone update - how long does it take? Not built in, but their are applications available, one free and one not rated at 2 and 2.5 stars respectively. On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 9:03 AM, Martin Blackstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Let me jump in and slightly hijack this. Does the iPhone have a speak to dial feature? You know like can I say "Call Home" ? From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Your opinion doesn't offend me. I never really claimed that you in particular were anti-apple, but alluded to a pattern of comments I've seen on the list that tends to discount products that won't work in their environment and dismissing any potential value those products may have in other environments.. Your comment I guess set me off. And to boot, the original poster's problem was not even a configuration problem, more like a Murphy's law problem If you apply an update immediately before the application device needs to be functional the update will fail and (temporarily) brick your system. I apologize to you for bearing the brunt of my opinion. -Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Christopher J. Bosak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Did I say I was anti-apple? No. Was I bowing to the Micro$oft gods? No. I'm a Linux man myself. I was just stating, that in my opinion WM 6.1 was easier to configure then the iPhone. Sorry if my opinion offended you. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue." - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:31 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Perhaps. My main problem is that generally this list is quite open about alternative technologies to solving a particular problem, even though it's officially an nt system administrators list. Many of us here are working with varied and mixed environments, some by choice and some by fiat or inheritence. I have trouble when that same open attitude can't be extended to Apple. Does Apple have control issues? Sure, but then so does Microsoft. So does IBM, HP, Dell, any vendor wants to exercise as much control over their product as possible. Apple just happens to be a bit more successful in exercising that control to fulfill their vision. If you happen to disagree with that vision, that's fine, too, but my feeling is that this list generally doesn't discount any company regardless of their vision if they're capable of providing the right tool for a given application. I try and use the best tool for the job. To wit, I bought a Macbook Pro as my last notebook, because I wanted to play some games on it, and I wanted to do some video editing work with video's we've collected of our daughter since she was born. I spec'ed out similar systems from HP, Dell, and Apple (obviously). All were about comparable in price for what I wanted to do, but the Apple won because it had great easy to use video editing software and, I could run Windows in Bootcamp. I run Bootcamp 75% of the time, and a lot of the time I'm on the OS X side, I'm running my Bootcamp partition through Fusion. On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Tim Vander Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jonathan must have accidentally slipped on Don's cranky pants this morning when he was sneaking out of the house in the dark. ;-P From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Sheesh, take a sedative. I was just trying to state it worked out of the box without excessive configuration and without installing anything. Way to over-read into things. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue." - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me From: Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 08:32 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Silly tools? <rant> Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it perfect, of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect device, just a best fit. For many people that will be an iPhone. Some people will want it to be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it can't be a best fit for their needs. I'm really glad you have a phone that perfectly fits your usage needs. Is there any reason to condescend to someone who has also found one that meets their needs, but it just happens to be different? </rant> Regards Jonathan On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J. Bosak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'll keep my BlackJack II with WM 6.1, sync'd with Exchange. No silly tools to configure. Just works. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue." - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me -----Original Message----- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 16:03 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? See how long it takes you to create a calendar appointment and invite 3 users on that touch ;) -Troy -----Original Message----- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Funny - I got my iPod touch set up to sync with my Exchange server and get e-mail, calendar and contacts pretty quickly. Took almost twice as long to get a Blackberry Curve to ONLY get e-mail. J Ben M. Schorr Chief Executive Officer ______________________________________________ Roland Schorr & Tower www.rolandschorr.com <http://www.rolandschorr.com/> <http://www.rolandschorr.com/> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? One more reason Blackberries rule! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families ________________________________ From: Bob Fronk To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wed Sep 17 15:47:08 2008 Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? Apple support says the "update server is down.. So why the *&*% did it offer to upgrade the (&(*(*&#$ software if the (&^$%^*# server is (&(*&#$ down.. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? I am getting ready to call them.. No. I don't know what it had on it. Have not been keeping up with the iphone hype.. Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? It took about 30 minutes for me. I've never interrupted an Apple update to the iPhone, but once did while jailbreaking my original iPhone (fortunately it wasn't bricked). If it's still going in another 20-30 minutes, I'd definitely give Apple a call (supposedly their phone support is good). Incidentally, do you know what the original firmware that was installed? 2.0? 2.0.1? 2.0.2? Andrew Greene IS Technician / Webmaster City of Anderson From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? I connected it and opened iTunes and activated. Then it said an update was available and I hesitantly allowed the update. Now I am nervous that I should have just left it alone. 1 hour 20 mins now... still on "restoring iPhone software Bob Fronk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? It's Apple. As soon as Steve Jobs receives confirmation that your soul is in this secure storage lot, then it will finish. Not before then. Christopher J. Bosak Vector Company c. 847.603.4673 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue." - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 13:26 hrs To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? I just bought my son an iphone. Before giving it to him I am running the 2.1 update. So just how long does this update take? There is no music or apps on the iPhone yet. Going on 1 hour now... Thanks. 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