It's already a sunk cost. VirtualBox wasn't to the point I needed it. Also, in order to run games, I need more direct access to hardware, so BootCamp is a necessity.
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Phillip Partipilo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As another Macbook user, I'd like to suggest VirtualBox. It's something > that Sun created and let loose for free. It also has a seamless windowing > system like Fusion. Runs XP Pro beautifully. Oh, did I mention it is free? > > > Phillip Partipilo > Parametric Solutions Inc. > Jupiter, Florida > (561) 747-6107 > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:31 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? > > Perhaps. > My main problem is that generally this list is quite open about alternative > technologies to solving a particular problem, even though it's officially an > nt system administrators list. Many of us here are working with varied and > mixed environments, some by choice and some by fiat or inheritence. > I have trouble when that same open attitude can't be extended to Apple. > Does Apple have control issues? Sure, but then so does Microsoft. So does > IBM, HP, Dell, any vendor wants to exercise as much control over their > product as possible. Apple just happens to be a bit more successful in > exercising that control to fulfill their vision. If you happen to disagree > with that vision, that's fine, too, but my feeling is that this list > generally doesn't discount any company regardless of their vision if they're > capable of providing the right tool for a given application. I try and use > the best tool for the job. To wit, I bought a Macbook Pro as my last > notebook, because I wanted to play some games on it, and I wanted to do some > video editing work with video's we've collected of our daughter since she > was born. I spec'ed out similar systems from HP, Dell, and Apple > (obviously). All were about comparable in price for what I wanted to do, > but the Apple won because it had great easy to use video editing software > and, I could run Windows in Bootcamp. I run Bootcamp 75% of the time, and a > lot of the time I'm on the OS X side, I'm running my Bootcamp partition > through Fusion. > > > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Tim Vander Kooi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> Jonathan must have accidentally slipped on Don's cranky pants this >> morning when he was sneaking out of the house in the dark. >> >> ;-P >> >> >> >> *From:* Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:10 AM >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> *Subject:* RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? >> >> >> >> Sheesh, take a sedative. I was just trying to state it worked out of the >> box without excessive configuration and without installing anything. Way to >> over-read into things. >> >> >> >> Christopher J. Bosak >> >> Vector Company >> >> c. 847.603.4673 >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> *"You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue."* >> >> *- B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me* >> >> >> >> *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2008 08:32 hrs >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> *Subject:* Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? >> >> >> >> Silly tools? >> >> <rant> >> >> Sheesh, cut the hyperbole. Perhaps there's a good application where the >> iPhone fits and another model cellphone wouldn't. >> >> My iPhone just works, too. I don't make a big deal about it until someone >> has to needlessly comment that it's a toy or it doesn't work. Is it >> perfect, of course not, but I'd venture to say that there is no perfect >> device, just a best fit. For many people that will be an iPhone. Some >> people will want it to be a best fit, and fewer still will recognize that it >> can't be a best fit for their needs. I'm really glad you have a phone that >> perfectly fits your usage needs. Is there any reason to condescend to >> someone who has also found one that meets their needs, but it just happens >> to be different? >> >> </rant> >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> Jonathan >> >> On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Christopher J. Bosak < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I'll keep my BlackJack II with WM 6.1, sync'd with Exchange. >> No silly tools to configure. Just works. >> >> >> Christopher J. Bosak >> Vector Company >> c. 847.603.4673 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> "You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue." >> - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 16:03 hrs >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> >> Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? >> >> See how long it takes you to create a calendar appointment and invite 3 >> users on that touch ;) >> >> -Troy >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 1:57 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? >> >> Funny – I got my iPod touch set up to sync with my Exchange server and get >> e-mail, calendar and contacts pretty quickly. Took almost twice as long to >> get a Blackberry Curve to ONLY get e-mail. J >> >> >> >> Ben M. Schorr >> Chief Executive Officer >> ______________________________________________ >> Roland Schorr & Tower >> www.rolandschorr.com <http://www.rolandschorr.com/> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> >> From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 9:47 AM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: Re: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? >> >> >> >> One more reason Blackberries rule! >> John W. Cook >> Systems Administrator >> Partnership For Strong Families >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Bob Fronk >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Sent: Wed Sep 17 15:47:08 2008 >> Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? >> >> Apple support says the "update server is down…. >> >> >> >> So why the *&*% did it offer to upgrade the (&(*(*&#$ software if the >> (&^$%^*# server is (&(*&#$ down…. >> >> >> >> Bob Fronk >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 3:01 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? >> >> >> >> I am getting ready to call them…. >> >> >> >> No… I don't know what it had on it. Have not been keeping up with the >> iphone hype…. >> >> >> >> Bob Fronk >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> From: Andrew Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:56 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? >> >> >> >> It took about 30 minutes for me. I've never interrupted an Apple update to >> the iPhone, but once did while jailbreaking my original iPhone (fortunately >> it wasn't bricked). If it's still going in another 20-30 minutes, I'd >> definitely give Apple a call (supposedly their phone support is good). >> >> >> >> Incidentally, do you know what the original firmware that was installed? >> 2.0? 2.0.1? 2.0.2? >> >> >> >> Andrew Greene >> >> IS Technician / Webmaster >> >> City of Anderson >> >> >> >> From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:41 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? >> >> >> >> I connected it and opened iTunes and activated. Then it said an update >> was available and I hesitantly allowed the update. Now I am nervous that I >> should have just left it alone. >> >> >> >> 1 hour 20 mins now….. still on "restoring iPhone software >> >> >> >> Bob Fronk >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> From: Christopher J. Bosak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:34 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? >> >> >> >> It's Apple. As soon as Steve Jobs receives confirmation that your soul is >> in this secure storage lot, then it will finish. Not before then. >> >> >> >> Christopher J. Bosak >> >> Vector Company >> >> c. 847.603.4673 >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> "You need to install an RTFM Interface, due to an LBNC issue." >> >> - B.O.F.H. (Merged 2 into 1) - Me >> >> >> >> From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 13:26 hrs >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: OT: iphone update - how long does it take? >> >> >> >> I just bought my son an iphone. Before giving it to him I am running the >> 2.1 update. >> >> >> >> So just how long does this update take? There is no music or apps on the >> iPhone yet. 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