I liked ESET compared to Trend, but as I learned it had issues.
Greg summed it up, but aren't those issues that make NOD not feasible? Support 
really does suck and the techs that I encountered were useless.
One guy wouldn't tell me how to do something because he said "We don't like it 
being done that way"? I wanted a farking warning removed for a module I didn't 
use?

So happy I am done with that crap.

jlc

From: Kelsey, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE

Boy I remember not too long ago ESET was all the rage on this list.  I can't 
recall anybody having anything negative to say about them.  Now it sounds like 
everybody is jumping ship!


*******************************
John C. Kelsey
DuBois Regional Medical Center
*:  814.375.3073
*:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 15:47
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE
Lol, ESET should buy a copy and learn a few things. So far I am very happy 
switching away from ESET, Vipre answered every deficiency I had with ESET.
jlc

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE

Interesting, I told ESET that I'm considering switching to Vipre, they don't 
even consider Sunbelt a competitor, they only compare themselves to Trend, 
Symantec, Sophos, etc..
If Vipre was a bit more mature I would definitely switch but reading about the 
latest definition issue, I probably have to stay with ESET for now (against my 
want).

___________________________________
Stefan Jafs

From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE

Fwiw, there are a LOT of fixes and enhancements in the new agent being released 
in several weeks.

Alex
Alex Eckelberry, CEO
Sunbelt Software, Inc.
33 N. Garden Avenue, Clearwater, FL 33755
727.562.0101 x220
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www.sunbeltsoftware.com<http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/>
www.sunbeltblog.com<http://www.sunbeltblog.com/>


________________________________
From: Jonathan Gruber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE
I had/have this issue also. Only happens to me when sending email with 
attachments. I've also noticed a real slow-down when selecting many messages 
(read over 200) to delete. I'd be interested in what they say.

Jonathan Gruber
Network Administrator
J.B. Long Inc.
610-944-8840  x.213
484-637-1978  direct

From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE

I had the same issue but didn't relate it to be a Viper issue. I wrote Sunbelt 
about this and will let you know.


Phil Thompson
________________________________
From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE

Yes.


Paul Chinnery
Network Administrator
Memorial Medical Center
231-845-2319
-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE
Is that the error when sending and email?


Phil Thompson
________________________________
From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE

He kept getting the "Operation Failed" error.


Paul Chinnery
Network Administrator
Memorial Medical Center
231-845-2319
-----Original Message-----
From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE
I'm curious - what sort of trouble? I'm running the consumer version of Vipre 
on a Vista laptop with OL2007...

________________________________
From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE
Our Sys Admin has O2007 installed and it was causing him trouble.  As I already 
have 2 layers of a/v defense with email, I just turned off Emaili protection.


Paul Chinnery
Network Administrator
Memorial Medical Center
231-845-2319
-----Original Message-----
From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE
Nope no regrets, the "bad me" was more about not doing a thorough due diligence 
before moving them to Vipre - hadn't occurred to me to see if Trend had 
upgraded their product before shopping elsewhere is all. The Vipre move saved 
my clients money even if you factor in the new install and learning curve, and 
it works fine.

As stated earlier... on one client I cranked up full paranoia mode and it nuked 
Outlook (Sunbelt didn't have that particular version of the outlook.exe on file 
yet) so be sure to test settings changes on a small group first :).

Also as Phil said, Sunbelt's support is great, and on the Vipre list there's a 
couple guys who seem to know the product almost as well as Sunbelt.
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE

So are you saying you regret moving to Vipre?


Paul Chinnery
Network Administrator
Memorial Medical Center
231-845-2319
-----Original Message-----
From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE
As someone else said, load it up on a server and some systems (VM's maybe?) and 
subscribe to the Vipre Enterprise list. As you said, since NOD32 Is working 
well I think you'd just need to get a feel for what you think about Viper 
Enterprise vs NOD32.

Speaking of AV, in my experience I have had very very low infection rates with 
both Trend or McAfee. I went to Vipre for the better spyware/malware side, only 
later realizing Trend updated their product. Bad me.
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE

My network is 200 +

___________________________________
Stefan Jafs

From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE

How big is your network? I converted a couple of clients (less than 25 seats) 
from Trend OfficeScan (aka Worry-Free business) to Vipre, as well as my own 
small shop, but not 100% convinced it's ready for "prime big time" (Nothing 
glaring really, it's just the conservative side of me). There's a Vipre 
Enterprise mailing list that is worthwhile to watch too.

For small businesses the lower cost will probably offset the slight learning 
curve. (Note: cranking up the security  to full blown paranoia mode will create 
some work for you :)).
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
(Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: NOD32 - > VIPRE

My NOD32 is coming up for renewal, I installed the demo version of VIPRE, so 
far it looks good.
Is there any reason not to change?
NOD323 has worked very well for me, so why switch?
Well the $$ are very attractive but if there is a problem it's not worth the 
switch!

What are your experiences?

___________________________________
Stefan Jafs


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