Anyone here in a government position, that has looked into Vipre? I've had some really good product ideas shot down in the past, because the company was not California based, and/or not a certified small business, and/or the product isn't offered through a reseller who was in California/small business.
I've loved Sunbelt in the past, it sounds like Vipre is pretty much there, but I hate the idea of setting myself up for a heart break again... Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 5:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NOD32 - > VIPRE Gesh don't make a joke like that, please. You might give them an idea they had not even thought of. Jon On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 8:41 AM, Phil Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sunbelt is a great company!! Support is superb.. Until they get bought out by Symantec or the like.. Phil From: Steve Kelsay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 8:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE Yes, if you post a comment on the list for Sunbelt's Counterspy, for example. A ticket is opened and a tech calls YOU. At least it works that way for me. From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 5:19 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: NOD32 - > VIPRE Then you must have missed the bad definitions NOD put out a few months ago. Freaking thing started quarantining all our DOCX documents and then would not release them from quarantine without first sending a copy to Eset. Try explaining something like that to researchers working on patentable projects! That is one of the reasons why I am looking at moving. I will add that the support Sunbelt has for all their products goes way beyond almost all the other companies. Jon On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 5:21 PM, Stefan Jafs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Actually, I have 200+ PC and I gotten a very attractive quote from Sunbelt, I also have the 30 Day 5 user Vipre installed and running. However right now the extra few $$K is not worth it if I have to go around to 200 PC' and fix a bad update! NOD 32 works very well in my environment, ones you get used to the console is not so bad, I only had to call tech support ones this year, it was not an urgent matter but it did take some time to resolve. If I only had 10 - 25 PC' it would be a no-brainer! I would switch to Vipre right now. I think Vipre is an excellent product but not mature enough for the enterprise, only my humble opinion. BTW I'm using Ninja on my mail server and I'm very happy with it. ___________________________________ Stefan Jafs From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE Any, how many PC's? ___________________________________ Stefan Jafs From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE IMO only, ESET has really gone downhill in the last year. I too, was a huge ESET fan, however, support tanked, the response times got unbearable (hours turned into days), the new version sucked donkey balls and I was never a fan of the console. For me, VIPRE was a no brainer mainly on price and an additional point of consolidation; i.e., migrating from NOD32 + CSE to VIPRE. NOD32 is a decent product as (someone check me on this) they are the oldest player in this space. The time was just right for me and I was able to sign a three year deal with the Clearwater crew for less than a FREAKIN' RENEWAL of NOD32. ESET was the stuff 18 months ago but I think they got lazy. Shookie's opinion only and YMMV Love to all, Shook From: Axcess Internet (Listserv) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE John: I know what you mean, we switched to ESET because of all the "promotion" it was getting here; as my contract is up at the end of the new year, I am wondering if I should switch as well. I can honestly say I have been happy with ESET. Just my .02 worth. Regards, Jim From: Kelsey, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:54 To: ML: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE Boy I remember not too long ago ESET was all the rage on this list. I can't recall anybody having anything negative to say about them. Now it sounds like everybody is jumping ship! ******************************* John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center (: 814.375.3073 *: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ******************************* -----Original Message----- From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 15:47 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE Lol, ESET should buy a copy and learn a few things. So far I am very happy switching away from ESET, Vipre answered every deficiency I had with ESET. jlc From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 1:22 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE Interesting, I told ESET that I'm considering switching to Vipre, they don't even consider Sunbelt a competitor, they only compare themselves to Trend, Symantec, Sophos, etc.. If Vipre was a bit more mature I would definitely switch but reading about the latest definition issue, I probably have to stay with ESET for now (against my want). ___________________________________ Stefan Jafs From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 5:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE Fwiw, there are a LOT of fixes and enhancements in the new agent being released in several weeks. Alex Alex Eckelberry, CEO Sunbelt Software, Inc. 33 N. Garden Avenue, Clearwater, FL 33755 727.562.0101 x220 [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> www.sunbeltsoftware.com <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/> www.sunbeltblog.com <http://www.sunbeltblog.com/> ________________________________ From: Jonathan Gruber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 12:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE I had/have this issue also. Only happens to me when sending email with attachments. I've also noticed a real slow-down when selecting many messages (read over 200) to delete. I'd be interested in what they say. Jonathan Gruber Network Administrator J.B. Long Inc. 610-944-8840 x.213 484-637-1978 direct From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE I had the same issue but didn't relate it to be a Viper issue. I wrote Sunbelt about this and will let you know. Phil Thompson ________________________________ From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE Yes. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -----Original Message----- From: Phil Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE Is that the error when sending and email? Phil Thompson ________________________________ From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE He kept getting the "Operation Failed" error. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -----Original Message----- From: Richards, Brian D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE I'm curious - what sort of trouble? I'm running the consumer version of Vipre on a Vista laptop with OL2007... ________________________________ From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:19 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE Our Sys Admin has O2007 installed and it was causing him trouble. As I already have 2 layers of a/v defense with email, I just turned off Emaili protection. Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -----Original Message----- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE Nope no regrets, the "bad me" was more about not doing a thorough due diligence before moving them to Vipre - hadn't occurred to me to see if Trend had upgraded their product before shopping elsewhere is all. The Vipre move saved my clients money even if you factor in the new install and learning curve, and it works fine. As stated earlier... on one client I cranked up full paranoia mode and it nuked Outlook (Sunbelt didn't have that particular version of the outlook.exe on file yet) so be sure to test settings changes on a small group first J. Also as Phil said, Sunbelt's support is great, and on the Vipre list there's a couple guys who seem to know the product almost as well as Sunbelt. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 9:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE So are you saying you regret moving to Vipre? Paul Chinnery Network Administrator Memorial Medical Center 231-845-2319 -----Original Message----- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE As someone else said, load it up on a server and some systems (VM's maybe?) and subscribe to the Vipre Enterprise list. As you said, since NOD32 Is working well I think you'd just need to get a feel for what you think about Viper Enterprise vs NOD32. Speaking of AV, in my experience I have had very very low infection rates with both Trend or McAfee. I went to Vipre for the better spyware/malware side, only later realizing Trend updated their product. Bad me. David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE My network is 200 + ___________________________________ Stefan Jafs From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:34 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: NOD32 - > VIPRE How big is your network? I converted a couple of clients (less than 25 seats) from Trend OfficeScan (aka Worry-Free business) to Vipre, as well as my own small shop, but not 100% convinced it's ready for "prime big time" (Nothing glaring really, it's just the conservative side of me). There's a Vipre Enterprise mailing list that is worthwhile to watch too. For small businesses the lower cost will probably offset the slight learning curve. (Note: cranking up the security to full blown paranoia mode will create some work for you J). David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764 From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 8:22 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: NOD32 - > VIPRE My NOD32 is coming up for renewal, I installed the demo version of VIPRE, so far it looks good. Is there any reason not to change? NOD323 has worked very well for me, so why switch? Well the $$ are very attractive but if there is a problem it's not worth the switch! What are your experiences? ___________________________________ Stefan Jafs This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Amico Corporation. 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