I've just ordered it.

I recognize both Spafford and Kim - they are top tier sysadmins and authors.

Thanks for the reference.

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Fogarty, Richard R Mr CTR USA USASOC
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Couple that paper with this book, and this question will almost assuredly
> never come up again:
>
> The Visible Ops Handbook:  ISBN:  0-9755686-1-2
> (http://www.amazon.com/Visible-Ops-Handbook-Implementing-Practical/dp/097556
> 8612/ref=sr_11_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1226504038&sr=11-1)
>
> Rick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 1:58 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: staff to equipment to end users ratios
>
> There are several determining factors that you're leaving out:
>     o- Do your users have administrator authority on their machines?
> Win this battle, and you'll need fewer support staff. I'm still trying
> to win it.
>     o- How sophisticated are your users?
>     o- How complex is your application environment?
>     o- How complex are the business requirements? This is probably
> the driver for the prior question.
>     o- What is management's expectation for sophistication, and
> therefore rate of pay, of IT support staff. Pay less per person, and
> you need more of them, all other things being equal.
>
> The best paper I've seen on this is here :
>
> http://www.verber.com/mark/sysadm/how-many-admins.html
>
> Kurt
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 7:45 AM, Jake Gardner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> What is everyone's ratio of staff to servers and/or network equipment?
>> Staff to end user support?
>>
>> We have 225+ end users supported by 1 person whom I have to help if she
> gets
>> backed up.
>> I am in charge of the network infrastructure and 10+3 servers (Prod+Dev)
> and
>> have no one to help me when I get backed up, and that's not a complaint!
> I
>> don't like people screwing up my servers.
>> There are 3 developers in IT for our internal apps, and I need to support
>> them like a babysitter sometimes.   If you are a developer and can't
>> research your own error messages... don't talk to me and seriously don't
>> tell me my server is misconfigured!   ;)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jake Gardner
>> TTC Network Administrator
>> Ext. 246
>
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>
>
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