One can't control the possibility of malware on ANY computer, state owned or 
not. As a state contractor that has to adhere to their strict standards I CAN 
tell you that products like the IAG (we have it's progenitor, Whale SSL VPN) 
allow a much greater deal of security while allowing some actual work to be 
done. It's far more desireable than jump drives or no access at all. YMMV
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
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----- Original Message -----
From: Erik Goldoff <egold...@gmail.com>
To: NT System Admin Issues <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
Sent: Tue Dec 23 13:21:52 2008
Subject: RE: File share

 Don't beg <g>

And NO, you can't dictate the USE of such, only deny connections for those that 
don't match the requirement.  Not a viable alternative in every environment...  
In many places, if you dictate the use of specific software on personally owned 
equipment as part of remote access, you may find you have to provide said 
software on your budget, and could potentially become embroiled in support for 
any conflicts/issues that arise ...  This I've seen and can state as fact, not 
just my opinion ...



Erik Goldoff
IT  Consultant
Systems, Networks, & Security


-----Original Message-----
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 1:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: File share

Beg to differ, look up Microsoft IAG. Not cheap but you CAN dictate AV, patch 
level, etc on the connecting endpoint.
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
 Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud

----- Original Message -----
From: Erik Goldoff <egold...@gmail.com>
To: NT System Admin Issues <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
Sent: Tue Dec 23 13:13:06 2008
Subject: RE: File share


"so I CANNOT transmit malware directly from my home network to their network.  
Well, can't while connected to VPN anyway :)"

If it is NOT a state owned (or company owned in another scenario) computer, 
then there is no way to enforce a particular level of anti-virus, anti-spam, 
anti-malware protection, and once a VPN connection is made, you've blasted a 
DIRECT connection to an interior subnet INSIDE the firewall that helps protect 
against such things

I think RDP is at least as secure, if not more so than VPNs for personally 
owned equipment to connect with.

Just my opinion, your mileage may vary


Erik Goldoff
IT  Consultant
Systems, Networks, & Security


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Monicher [mailto:bmacd5...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 12:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: File share

I don't know what VPN system you are using, or have looked at, but we are using 
a Cisco VPN.  Only domain members can connect using it.  If you try to install 
the client on your home PC, then is tries to authenticate the computer agains 
the domain, which fails.

The national network people set up a category for suppliers/contractors that 
does not do this, but you don't need to.

From what I've seen VPNs provide MORE secure than any other option, not less.  
Under our setup, when I connect my laptop using VPN, my home network 
disappears, so I CANNOT transmit malware directly from my home network to their 
network.  Well, can't while connected to VPN anyway :)

Unfortunately I don't have a copy of the client available right now, so can't 
tell you version, but if you are interested, email me off-list

--BM


On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:24 AM, Glen Johnson <gjohn...@vhcc.edu> wrote:
> Guess I should have been clearer, non state owned computers cannot
> connect to our LAN so no VPN.
> Not just security but policy I don't make, just enforce.
> Thanks.
> Glen.

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