Sorry I meant get the NY big boys to pony up for their mistake and the impact 
on Richard and staff!!!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:49 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: AV revisited

What extra work? For the size of the install, I'll bet you dollars to
donuts that Sunbelt would come up with an automated uninstall of the
CA drek. And, I'll bet the cost savings on the purchase would be
enough to cover that effort, too.

Their pricing has been extremely aggressive, and the product is well worth it.

Kurt

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:44, David L Herrick <davidherr...@nincal.com> wrote:
>
> Can you get them to pay for the extra work you are going to have to do out of 
> their budget? :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 12:21 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: AV revisited
>
> Give them the data on VIPRE, especially the pricing. They might convert.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:17, <richardmccl...@aspca.org> wrote:
> >
> > DANG! �� Within the year, I'm having VIPRE ripped violently from my dying 
> > grasp because NYC HQ has 4 times as many Ca-Ca users (and a couple of NYC 
> > Big Guys insist on uniformity)
> > --
> > Richard D. McClary
> > Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group
> >
> > ASP��������
> > 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
> > Urbana,�������� 61802
> >
> > richardmccl...@aspca.org
> >
> > P: 217-337-9761
> > C: 217-417-1182
> > F: 217-337-9761
> > www.aspca.org
> >
> >
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> >
> > "Evan Brastow" <ebras...@automatedemblem.com> wrote on 06/17/2009 02:11:03 
> > PM:
> >
> > > I used to say years ago that if CA antivirus was any good it would
> > > immediately remove itself from any workstation it was installed on.
> > >
> > > It never did, though.
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 2:55 PM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: Re: AV revisited
> > >
> > > +2 or is that +3 now.������Whatever, just got my license keys for Vipre
> > > and Sunbelt's sales team will likely (said in a 'Godfather' like
> > > voice) make you an offer you can't refuse.
> > >
> > > Deep scans from McAfee weren't allowed on my servers because it
> > > would absolutely bring the server to a screeching halt, which is not good.
> > >
> > > Just made my desktop guys so happy today that they were about to
> > > give me hugs when I showed them in writing that Vipre Enterprise
> > > will remove McAfee automatically. ��  Most of the IT people that I
> > > work with have switched to Vipre even though we have a free home use
> > > of McAfee....
> > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 1:33 PM, David Lum <david....@nwea.org> wrote:
> > > +1
> > >
> > > From: richardmccl...@aspca.org [mailto:richardmccl...@aspca.org]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 11:32 AM
> > >
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: Re: AV revisited
> > >
> > >
> > > How 'bout our sponsor's product (VIPRE)?
> > >
> > > Sales is trying to undercut -er- make competitive pricing for
> > > switching from other products.�����Centralized control is great...
> > >
> > > Despite claims of low load, running a deep scan will pretty much
> > > make a system unusable for the duration (but competitors will
> > > probably do the same).
> > > --
> > > Richard D. McClary
> > > Systems Administrator, Information Technology Group
> > >
> > > ASP��������
> > > 1717 S. Philo Rd, Ste 36
> > > Urbana, I������61802
> > >
> > > richardmccl...@aspca.org
> > >
> > > P: 217-337-9761
> > > C: 217-417-1182
> > > F: 217-337-9761
> > > www.aspca.org
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > "Erik Goldoff" <egold...@gmail.com> wrote on 06/17/2009 01:26:33 PM:
> > >
> > >
> > > > got a friend with a small law firm as a client, HQ office about 20
> > > > stations and 6 servers, 10 satellite offices with 5 stations ...
> > >
> > > >
> > > > They have Trend and are VERY unhappy with the latest updates, and
> > > > will not consider Symantec nor McAfee as a replacement ...
> > > >
> > > > Given that, what would you recommend as a best price/performance
> > > > product with some centralized control ��������AVG, AVAST, Sophos, or 
> > > > what
> > > > ???������And why ?
> > > >
> > > > Erik Goldoff
> > > > I��������Consultant
> > > > Systems, Networks, & Security
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sherry Abercrombie
> > >
> > > "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
> > > Arthur C. Clarke
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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