*
I can understand that some people like a physical keyboard,
regardless of whether it is more usable or not. If you are doing lots
of emails (which is so 90's, :), then fine. I don't happen to find the
virtual keyboard to be a problem at all. It works great if you learn to
trust it, and I just don't need to type that much anyway. I helped
setup the BlackBerry's in our office, and I found the simple act of
dialing a phone number to be nearly impossible on those keys and I
couldn't imagine actually typing on it. YMMV.
*
As has been mentioned before, encryption is added in 3.0
(http://www.apple.com/iphone/iphone-3gs/more-features.html).
*
While I don't doubt what you say about costs, I am curious as to
what plans that are out there that offer unlimited data + voice for $35.
(Or $30, my plan is $60 a month.)
*
There are whole markets cropping up for industry specific apps,
most notably in the medical field.
*
Again, I don't know all the details, but there absolutely are
tools for IT management. How thorough it is, I don't know. But
"complete lack of" is not accurate.
*
As has been mentioned many times, remote wipe is there and has
been there since 2.0. In other words, it's been available for about a
year.
________________________________
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 5:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g <Nightmare>
Good list.
To add:
No QWERTY. Need more?
No Encryption. Bye by Health Care and Finance industry, can't touch!
(Apple, wake up and smell the lost revenue there).
Costs. My iPhone users pay DOUBLE per month for voice/data compared to
our other users on smartphones.
3rd party Custom Enterprise Applications (Industry Specific internal
apps, like SalesForce)
IT Management, complete lack of.
iTunes Enterprise Support/Deployment
Only a small subset of the Exchange ActiveSync is implemented. (Can't
flag messages? Seriously? And I am not positive, but you can't send
out meeting requests, or something similar)
Lack of Multitasking.
No removable battery. (I had 5 batteries for my last phone)
Remote Wipe (Although, I think they addressed this in 3.0)
Sam
________________________________
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g <Nightmare>
Security is the primary issue. There's no security on P2P connections
through Bluetooth right now, i.e., great for sharing songs with people
in range, but bad for "losing" company data in the same data stream.
And, as mentioned previously, valid, signed certificates is another
security area.
iPhones do not multitask, i.e.,. you can only run one app at a time.
iPhones are chained to iTunes. iTunes is a consumer-oriented service.
Who really wants your users loading up "shake the baby" on business
devices?
There's currently no way to manage an iPhone inside the Enterprise, from
app installations to remote wipe for stolen units.
Others...
From: Andrew Greene [mailto:agre...@cityofanderson.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g <Nightmare>
Sorry if this question seems like flame bait, but exactly which features
does the iPhone need to have to be considered ready for the enterprise?
Andrew Greene
IS Technician / Webmaster
City of Anderson
From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g <Nightmare>
The iPhone is still not a business unit. They are trying, and while the
OS is at 3.0, the business side is still in beta, IMO. Apple has never
catered to businesses - no matter how much folks have tried to integrate
their products. The iPhone is the first device where Apple has been
severely tasked by the customer to produce something that can work in
both consumer and business sectors. They'll get it eventually, but 3.0
still does not provide everything. In addition, AT&T has stated
publicly that there are certain features of the iPhone 3Gs and the 3.0
update that they either a) will still not support for a while, and b)
may cost extra in the future.
Watch your phone bill.
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 3:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g <Nightmare>
I see, so really your just touting the iPhone's lack of security
features? ;-)
Just blindly accepting a self-signed cert is really not a good security
practice, even if it does make life a little simpler.
That said, not using a trusted cert on OWA/Autodiscover truly is a
matter of getting what you pay for.
TVK
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g <Nightmare>
Self Signed Certs. Nothing 'really amiss' here. Just have to import
the CA Cert.
________________________________
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g <Nightmare>
If setting up a Windows Phone (the new name for Windows Mobile from what
I hear) takes more than entering a URL, a user name and a password then
you've got something amiss in your systems. Should take around 45
seconds, depending on the length of those fields and the speed of your
thumbs.
TVK
From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g <Nightmare>
That is ironic. I setup my HTC in under a minute (actually timed it).
So those iPhones must be wicked fast. ;-)
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Sam Cayze <sam.ca...@rollouts.com>
wrote:
Ironically, our iPhone was far easier to connect to our Exchange Server
than our Windows Mobile Phones.
________________________________
From: Fogarty, Richard R CTR USA USASOC
[mailto:rick.foga...@us.army.mil]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: IPhone 3g <Nightmare>
Only if you have the app for it.
From: Eric Wittersheim [mailto:eric.wittersh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:32 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: IPhone 3g <Nightmare>
I thought the iPhone can cure cancer.
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Mark A. Ross <ma...@sdppayroll.com>
wrote:
Hello All.
The boss just purchased an iPhone 3g. I believe the cure for cancer will
be realized before I can get this "rock" to send and receive e-mail from
our
Exchange server. The folks at Apple were little or no help. They sent me
links to various docs, which I found useless.
Does anyone know the "trick" to getting an iPhone 3g to connect to an
Exchange server? (2003). The server resides on our network, on the
friendly
side of our SonicWall firewall.
I guess I'm spoiled with my Blackberry, which has a 2 minute setup
process.
Thanks a ton!
Mark A. Ross
(909) 946-2032
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