UAG is the new IAG���and IAG rocks! Except for the price, which sucks. TVK
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 9:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? No love for the IAG??? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud ________________________________ From: Thomas W Shinder To: NT System Admin Issues Sent: Wed Jul 01 22:15:41 2009 Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? He�����ve grown and realize that ISA can sometimes suck ��� m on the UAG path these days anyhow. TMG is still interesting though. I dot even hate Cisco anymore. Still love you too Andy ;) Tom From: Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? Shookie, stop stirring the pot :P Joe Heaton Employment Training Panel From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? (throw back to NT list of three years ago) Because ISA su����I still love you Dr.����� ��� Shook From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Virtualized Websense? What Cisco device, if I may ask? Why are you moving away from ISA? -Malcolm From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:06 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? ISA, but ISA will soon be going away in favor of Cisco equipment. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kelsey, John <jckel...@drmc.org<mailto:jckel...@drmc.org>> wrote: Sherry, Are you running on top of ISA, or do you have it installed on a standalone box and all users go out another way? ******************************* John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center ����: 814.375.3073 ���: jckel...@drmc.org<mailto:jckel...@drmc.org> ******************************* -----Original Message----- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com<mailto:saber...@gmail.com>] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:10 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements. Like I said, we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech support and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual mode. Paul, words of wisdom for implementing: make sure you have clearly defined (by management) rules to setup prior to implementing (just saves you some headaches, we have changed our configuration multiple times, and actually rebuilt Websense a couple of times because of mgmt changing their minds.). Websense technical support is your friend, they are very helpful and in our experience response time has been excellent, (I think it's always been we got help on that call with little waiting. Have setup several webex sessions and have had really good results with them.) I'm not saying that the product is hard to use, or configure, we've just had mgmt changing their minds so many times that we couldn't undo what we had done to do what was requested without a complete rebuild or help from technical support. (It's a long story, we've had it in place almost a year now, and it's still not really in production and is in fact undergoing another rebuild.....sigh). Oh and by rebuild, I don't mean a complete rebuild from the OS up, just a rebuild/clean install of the application..... On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Kelsey, John <jckel...@drmc.org<mailto:jckel...@drmc.org>> wrote: Just out of curiosity, why didn't it work? Because of the port mirroring? We're about to decommish our SurfControl and install Websense. ******************************* John C. Kelsey DuBois Regional Medical Center�����: 814.375.3073 ����: jckel...@drmc.org<mailto:jckel...@drmc.org> ******************************* -----Original Message----- From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com<mailto:saber...@gmail.com>] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:48 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Virtualized Websense? Nope, Websense requires physical hardware, and yes, we tried to deploy it in VMWare and it no workee. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Joe Heaton <jhea...@etp.ca.gov<mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov>> wrote: Has anyone tried this, or is running Websense virtualized? Looking at finally getting our feet wet with server virtualization, using ESXi, and trying to find out if it is possible/supported to run Websense in a virtual environment. 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