I don't think it was his hand...

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Rob Bonfiglio <robbonfig...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hey hey!  Watch where you're putting that hand.....
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> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Thomas W Shinder <tshin...@tacteam.net>wrote:
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>>  Group hug ;)
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>> *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 02, 2009 7:18 AM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense?
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>> What a way to start my Thursday…Dr. Shinder, you complete me.
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>> Shook
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>> *From:* Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshin...@tacteam.net]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:16 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense?
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>> Hey, I’ve grown and realize that ISA can sometimes suck J
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>> I’m on the UAG path these days anyhow.
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>> TMG is still interesting though.
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>> I don’t even hate Cisco anymore.
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>> Still love you too Andy ;)
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>> Tom
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>> *From:* Joe Heaton [mailto:jhea...@etp.ca.gov]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:13 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense?
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>> Shookie, stop stirring the pot :P
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>> Joe Heaton
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>> Employment Training Panel
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>> *From:* Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:36 AM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense?
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>> (throw back to NT list of three years ago)
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>> Because ISA sucks…I still love you Dr. Tom… J
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>> Shook
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>> *From:* Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 2:26 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: Virtualized Websense?
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>> What Cisco device, if I may ask? Why are you moving away from ISA?
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>> -Malcolm
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>> *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:06 PM
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: Virtualized Websense?
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>> ISA, but ISA will soon be going away in favor of Cisco equipment.
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>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Kelsey, John <jckel...@drmc.org> wrote:
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>> Sherry,
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>>     Are you running on top of ISA, or do you have it installed on a
>> standalone box and all users go out another way?
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>> *******************************
>> *John C. Kelsey
>> *DuBois Regional Medical Center
>> (:  814.375.3073
>> *:   jckel...@drmc.org
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>>  -----Original Message-----
>> *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
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>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 12:10
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: Virtualized Websense?
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>> Port mirroring, multiple nics and huge resource requirements.  Like I
>> said, we tried virtualization and it didn't work well, called their tech
>> support and found out that it's not recommended for running in a virtual
>> mode.
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>> Paul, words of wisdom for implementing:  make sure you have clearly
>> defined (by management) rules to setup prior to implementing (just saves you
>> some headaches, we have changed our configuration multiple times, and
>> actually rebuilt Websense a couple of times because of mgmt changing their
>> minds.).  Websense technical support is your friend, they are very helpful
>> and in our experience response time has been excellent, (I think it's always
>> been we got help on that call with little waiting.  Have setup several webex
>> sessions and have had really good results with them.)  I'm not saying that
>> the product is hard to use, or configure, we've just had mgmt changing their
>> minds so many times that we couldn't undo what we had done to do what was
>> requested without a complete rebuild or help from technical support.  (It's
>> a long story, we've had it in place almost a year now, and it's still not
>> really in production and is in fact undergoing another rebuild.....sigh).
>> Oh and by rebuild, I don't mean a complete rebuild from the OS up, just a
>> rebuild/clean install of the application.....
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>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Kelsey, John <jckel...@drmc.org> wrote:
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>>   Just out of curiosity, why didn't it work?  Because of the port
>> mirroring?
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>> We're about to decommish our SurfControl and install Websense.
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>> *******************************
>> *John C. Kelsey
>> *DuBois Regional Medical Center
>> (:  814.375.3073
>> *:   jckel...@drmc.org
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>>  -----Original Message-----
>> *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com]
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>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:48
>> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: Virtualized Websense?
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>> Nope, Websense requires physical hardware, and yes, we tried to deploy it
>> in VMWare and it no workee.
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>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Joe Heaton <jhea...@etp.ca.gov> wrote:
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>> Has anyone tried this, or is running Websense virtualized?  Looking at
>> finally getting our feet wet with server virtualization, using ESXi, and
>> trying to find out if it is possible/supported to run Websense in a virtual
>> environment.
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>> Joe Heaton
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>> AISA
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>> jhea...@etp.ca.gov
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>> Sherry Abercrombie
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