touche' ________________________________
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant However, you don't seem to avoid stereotypes quite so assiduously, I see. :-) ________________________________ From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant No... I don't think so. I stay away from the Cahulawassee River. :-) ________________________________ From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant If you're lucky! ________________________________ From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant Do I hear banjo music? ________________________________ From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant No, I've missed it, Sherry. Every since I got my satellite radio, all I listen to is Bluegrass music. No news, no adds, just good quality music! ________________________________ From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 7:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: Salary rant I have to laugh at the irony of this discussion. Hey Kim, have you heard the radio advertisements for this place? http://mycomputercareer.com/ I wish I could record the audio of this radio ad so yall could hear it. Basically they are saying that even in a down economy all companies still need computer support and you can earn more money than you've ever earned before and in as little as three months have the certifications that employers are looking for. Stimulus money is available and deferred student loans are available. I just want to scream whenever I hear this ad, especially since I'm hearing it on our local Christian radio station, talk about false advertising (IMNSHO). The Dallas/Ft. Worth area has not really been hit so bad in this economy, but it's not great. Yeah, I just had my annual review and got a great raise, but here at our organization, at the first of the year, management voluntarily elected to forgo their raises for this year....training budget is non-existent and new hardware is on an as needed basis and it has to be really needed. I'm grateful to have a good job, and for management that sees the long-term benefits of making a personal sacrifice that will benefit their employees and ultimately them. Happy employees = loyal employees. It's a win-win deal for all. On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Maglinger, Paul <pmaglin...@scvl.com> wrote: And speaking of biting, keep in mind that rants on the internet can have a way of coming back and biting you... ________________________________ From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 5:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant Well put, nice words Andy. (And others). They might be lowballing to find someone serious about the position, not the paycheck. If you bite, they may make it worth your while if you are committed. ________________________________ From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 4:27 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: Salary rant Chris, It's tough out there no doubt and I feel your pain, many of us that are employed are right there with you. Salary cuts, benefit cost increases, insurance coverage decreases, 401(k)s turning into 101(k)s, furloughs, FREAKIN' COMISSION PLAN RESTRUCTURES (I fell better). The cut sucks, I understand, but you're standing there with an FULL TIME OFFER LETTER. To many IT guys that are stupid smart are now bagging groceries... I encourage everyone in this situation to look long term; the here and now is not fun but it is temporary. "This too, shall pass", wrote the psalmist. I would use the opportunity you have been given to rise above the morale, fear\doom & gloom and stand out; i.e. all of you be the rock star in your current position(s). It's a killer opportunity, as the fat has been trimmed and orgs are now focusing on everything & everyone with laser precision. Be the best... [1] Shook [1] This could be perceived as an unintentional Karate Kid reference (tournament music....You're the best, around. No one's ever gunna beat you down) but that was not the intent. :-) On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Christopher Bodnar <christopher_bod...@glic.com> wrote: I know I'm not going to get a any sympathy here, due to the unemployment rate, and the economy in general, but needed to vent a little. Was hired as a contract to hire position last year. Great company, close to home, good salary. 6 months in they cut my salary by 10% to the contracting company, which was then passed on to me. I was told at the time, that if/when I was offered full time employment, I would be brought on with the initial salary I had started at. Just go the official offer, and it's 5% below that. I know I should be thankful I even have a job, which I am. But I still feel like they are low-balling me just because of the economy. If the economy would be better and more IT jobs out there, I'd tell them to take a hike and see what happens. Can't afford to do that right now with a mortgage and 2 kids. For once I just wish someone would offer me what was promised. Sorry, not looking to offend anyone out there. Just blowing off some steam. Chris ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ -- Organization and good planning are just crutches for people that can't handle stress and caffeine. - unknown -- Sherry Abercrombie "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." Arthur C. 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