I have no issues with users modding the machines and software they've
purchased. It's what people do, and should be able to do.

I have no issues with the service provider monitoring for modding,
detecting it and discontinuing service if mods are detected, but I
think it's a design problem, and not a service problem. The fact that
the game providers aren't smart enough (yet) to level the playing
field and maintain security of their networks is *their* problem, not
the consumer's problem.

I have *big* issues with criminalizing the modding. I even have issues
with torts surrounding this issue. It's way out of line.

On the other hand, I don't play computer games any more, either. Most
of that decision was based on lack of time/interest, but a  small part
of it was frustration with the modders who "cheated" (if that's the
term you want to use) and gained an advantage. But that's my choice,
and not a legal matter.

Kurt

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 03:10, <asbz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Over the years, a lot of comparisons have been made between cars and 
> computers.
>
> I don't necessarily agree with the criminal angle of modding electronic 
> equipment, but one does have to admit that computers and computer-like 
> devices facilitate and engage in a degree of interoperability that is not 
> common in other modding scenarios.
>
> Is it fair to have someone mod a game system and then participate in an 
> online multiplayer game with what no longer constitutes a level playing field?
>
> The challenges in this realm are different.
>
> -ASB
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com>
>
> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:38:26
> To: NT System Admin Issues<ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
> Subject: Re: XBox mod hacker could face 10 years in prison !!!
>
>
> Yup. Clear conflict with the intent of SCOTUS and the Carterfone
> decision and other decisions regarding 3rd party maintenance on cars,
> etc..
>
> Something's going to give here in the next few years.
>
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 13:04, Steven M. Caesare<scaes...@caesare.com> wrote:
>> It's the leveraging DCMA circumvention as a root "crime" in this prosecution 
>> that's disturbing.
>>
>> -sc
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:53 PM
>>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>>> Subject: Re: XBox mod hacker could face 10 years in prison !!!
>>>
>>> I'm not exactly an Ayn-Rander, but...
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 08:14, Angus Scott-Fleming<angu...@geoapps.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip a bunch, and the quote below was written by someone else...>
>>>
>>> > Now Apple is trying to control the platform, applications and network
>>> > simply to line their own pockets. While you Ayn Rand-ers are busy
>>> > slapping high-fives, let me remind the rest of you that competition
>>> > and open platforms are better for consumers on all levelяяЏяявяњfrom
>>> > pricing to performance. It is only in the short term that we benefit
>>> > from closed systems.
>>>
>>> I applaud Apple's attempt to keep their platform pure, same as with
>>> MSFT. There are good reasons for doing it.
>>>
>>> The issue at hand, however, is misguided IP law. There should be no
>>> penalty for selling modded equipment. If you bought it, it's yours,
>>> and you should be able to do with it as you will, including modifying
>>> it and selling it. If Apple/Microsoft refuses to support it
>>> thereafter, well, that's their call.
>>>
>>> Companies that try to enforce that will lose, eventually, though.
>>>
>>> Kurt
>>>
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