Heh. Hacker tools? Well, just don't get caught driving around with a SlimJim - if you have the tools, you are guilty, I suppose.
2009/8/13 Mayo, Bill <bem...@pittcountync.gov>: > From what I understood in the article, the mods were in order to allow > pirated software to run. As someone who actually pays for the music, movies, > and games I play/watch, I have very little sympathy. I understand that there > are some valid concerns about the specific charges, but it does seem fairly > unlikely that a person would be arrested for modifying their own hardware for > purposes that are not themselves illegal. There is a whole generation coming > up now that think that pirating music and movies is no big deal, and I see > little to no difference between that and throwing a brick through the window > at Best Buy. Stealing is stealing. > > Bill Mayo > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 3:31 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: XBox mod hacker could face 10 years in prison !!! > > I have no issues with users modding the machines and software they've > purchased. It's what people do, and should be able to do. > > I have no issues with the service provider monitoring for modding, detecting > it and discontinuing service if mods are detected, but I think it's a design > problem, and not a service problem. The fact that the game providers aren't > smart enough (yet) to level the playing field and maintain security of their > networks is *their* problem, not the consumer's problem. > > I have *big* issues with criminalizing the modding. I even have issues with > torts surrounding this issue. It's way out of line. > > On the other hand, I don't play computer games any more, either. Most of that > decision was based on lack of time/interest, but a small part of it was > frustration with the modders who "cheated" (if that's the term you want to > use) and gained an advantage. But that's my choice, and not a legal matter. > > Kurt > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 03:10, <asbz...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Over the years, a lot of comparisons have been made between cars and >> computers. >> >> I don't necessarily agree with the criminal angle of modding electronic >> equipment, but one does have to admit that computers and computer-like >> devices facilitate and engage in a degree of interoperability that is not >> common in other modding scenarios. >> >> Is it fair to have someone mod a game system and then participate in an >> online multiplayer game with what no longer constitutes a level playing >> field? >> >> The challenges in this realm are different. >> >> -ASB >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> >> >> Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:38:26 >> To: NT System Admin Issues<ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> >> Subject: Re: XBox mod hacker could face 10 years in prison !!! >> >> >> Yup. Clear conflict with the intent of SCOTUS and the Carterfone >> decision and other decisions regarding 3rd party maintenance on cars, >> etc.. >> >> Something's going to give here in the next few years. >> >> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 13:04, Steven M. Caesare<scaes...@caesare.com> wrote: >>> It's the leveraging DCMA circumvention as a root "crime" in this >>> prosecution that's disturbing. >>> >>> -sc >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] >>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:53 PM >>>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>>> Subject: Re: XBox mod hacker could face 10 years in prison !!! >>>> >>>> I'm not exactly an Ayn-Rander, but... >>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 08:14, Angus >>>> Scott-Fleming<angu...@geoapps.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> <snip a bunch, and the quote below was written by someone else...> >>>> >>>> > Now Apple is trying to control the platform, applications and >>>> > network simply to line their own pockets. While you Ayn Rand-ers >>>> > are busy slapping high-fives, let me remind the rest of you that >>>> > competition and open platforms are better for consumers on all >>>> > levelяяЏяявяњfrom pricing to performance. It is only in the short >>>> > term that we benefit from closed systems. >>>> >>>> I applaud Apple's attempt to keep their platform pure, same as with >>>> MSFT. There are good reasons for doing it. >>>> >>>> The issue at hand, however, is misguided IP law. There should be no >>>> penalty for selling modded equipment. If you bought it, it's yours, >>>> and you should be able to do with it as you will, including >>>> modifying it and selling it. If Apple/Microsoft refuses to support >>>> it thereafter, well, that's their call. >>>> >>>> Companies that try to enforce that will lose, eventually, though. >>>> >>>> Kurt >>>> >>>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ >>>> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>яя ~ >>> >>> >>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ >>> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/яяВ ~ >> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ >> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ >> <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ > <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
