I agree the noise here is far too high lately... But I don't delete the messages (takes time) or use conversation view; is it that hard just to ignore a thread, not read it, and move on? Read what's important. Most on topic questions get answered quickly and thoroughly imo. I think a little noise is needed to build a network and trust within the contributors. It gives my a good laugh too from time to time. Stu always seems to chime in at the right time to put things to a halt. -Sam
________________________________ From: Christopher [mailto:c.bo...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Good NT sysadmin list? Yeah, thank goodness for Gmail's conversation sorting (it has its moments..). Althought I totally agree with Ben, you have to admit that the signal itself has been pretty low lately so it makes the noise seem a lot worse.. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Michael B. Smith <mich...@owa.smithcons.com> wrote: If it weren't for OWA 2010's conversation view, I would've had to drop out awhile ago. Thankfully, the Exchange list isn't quite as noisy. The only other "quality" forums I know of also have high-noise. ________________________________________ From: Ken Schaefer [...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list? Personally I don't really want to wade through 100 messages deleting 75 of them. When you get 5-600 messages a day, pressing delete for 75% of them isn't scalable. I'm with Ben - can we either have less noise, or can someone recommend a better list? Cheers Ken -----Original Message----- From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] Sent: Friday, 28 August 2009 6:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list? I'd be worried more if that 25% actually took up 25% of my time. But the delete key's a beautiful thing. -----Original Message----- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 3:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Good NT sysadmin list? Anyone here know of a good email list to discuss NT sysadmin issues? Seriously, folks, the signal-to-noise ratio on this list is going to hell. Today we had 15 messages on the definition of a word (here's a tip: www.google.com), 37 on a cartoon, 8 on banjos, 5 on the security of Mac's, 7 that were basically bitching about lack of recognition in one's job, 4 asking if the list was up (email asking if email was working?!?), and 1 get-well wish in a 3-day-old banned thread. That's 77. Oh, and about 20 that were actually something like on-topic. That's a ratio of about 4:1, or 25%. Twenty five percent. Ponder that a bit. Would you work for 25% of your pay? Would you pass a student with a 25% grade average? I think it's one thing to have the occasional off-topic message or thread, or occasional joke. This is something else entirely. This is the occasional on-topic message in a sea of crap. I've seen Stu kill more threads in the past 7 days than I've seen him do in the previous year. Is it too much to ask that people act like adults and exercise a little self-discipline? Whatever happened to "on-topic and low noise"? I realize I've been a sometime contributor to some of this myself, and from this point forward I'm going to strive not to be. I ask that you please all join me in that. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
