Same here, noisy or not, it's worth it. Get at least 1 laugh everyday from this list, which is all good in my opinion.
The answers and the knowledge-base of the members is worth more than anything else. Can't recall if there was a question asked that someone didn't know the answer to, or a solution gained by the members asking for more information. If the information gained from this list had to be paid for, there would be a lot less things working. Regards Tony Patton Desktop Operations Cavan Ext 8078 Direct Dial 049 435 2878 email: tony.pat...@quinn-insurance.com From: Bob Fronk <b...@btrfronk.com> To: "NT System Admin Issues" <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> Date: 28/08/2009 15:50 Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list? I wouldn?t want this list to change one bit. Sometimes I read the very OT stuff, sometimes not. We get to know each other on this list and most of us have never seen or spoken to one another. Truly, this thread is just more ?noise? and the op is just adding to it by starting the subject in the first place. Sort by conversation and liberal use of DEL is all that is needed. I find much value in this group and hope to see it continue to prosper. From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com] Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:26 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list? This list has always had its noise, it?s unavoidable. It definitely seems to be higher during the Summer months when the traffic is low. That being said, it?s an invaluable resource. Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 1:43 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list? I agree the noise here is far too high lately... But I don't delete the messages (takes time) or use conversation view; is it that hard just to ignore a thread, not read it, and move on? Read what's important. Most on topic questions get answered quickly and thoroughly imo. I think a little noise is needed to build a network and trust within the contributors. It gives my a good laugh too from time to time. Stu always seems to chime in at the right time to put things to a halt. -Sam From: Christopher [mailto:c.bo...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:12 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Good NT sysadmin list? Yeah, thank goodness for Gmail's conversation sorting (it has its moments..). Althought I totally agree with Ben, you have to admit that the signal itself has been pretty low lately so it makes the noise seem a lot worse.. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Michael B. Smith < mich...@owa.smithcons.com> wrote: If it weren't for OWA 2010's conversation view, I would've had to drop out awhile ago. Thankfully, the Exchange list isn't quite as noisy. The only other "quality" forums I know of also have high-noise. ________________________________________ From: Ken Schaefer [...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:03 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list? Personally I don't really want to wade through 100 messages deleting 75 of them. When you get 5-600 messages a day, pressing delete for 75% of them isn't scalable. I'm with Ben - can we either have less noise, or can someone recommend a better list? Cheers Ken -----Original Message----- From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] Sent: Friday, 28 August 2009 6:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list? I'd be worried more if that 25% actually took up 25% of my time. But the delete key's a beautiful thing. -----Original Message----- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 3:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Good NT sysadmin list? Anyone here know of a good email list to discuss NT sysadmin issues? Seriously, folks, the signal-to-noise ratio on this list is going to hell. Today we had 15 messages on the definition of a word (here's a tip: www.google.com), 37 on a cartoon, 8 on banjos, 5 on the security of Mac's, 7 that were basically bitching about lack of recognition in one's job, 4 asking if the list was up (email asking if email was working?!?), and 1 get-well wish in a 3-day-old banned thread. That's 77. Oh, and about 20 that were actually something like on-topic. That's a ratio of about 4:1, or 25%. Twenty five percent. Ponder that a bit. Would you work for 25% of your pay? Would you pass a student with a 25% grade average? I think it's one thing to have the occasional off-topic message or thread, or occasional joke. This is something else entirely. This is the occasional on-topic message in a sea of crap. I've seen Stu kill more threads in the past 7 days than I've seen him do in the previous year. Is it too much to ask that people act like adults and exercise a little self-discipline? Whatever happened to "on-topic and low noise"? I realize I've been a sometime contributor to some of this myself, and from this point forward I'm going to strive not to be. I ask that you please all join me in that. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ ==================================================================== http://www.quinn-insurance.com This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. The contents should not be copied nor disclosed to any other person. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of QUINN-Insurance, unless otherwise specifically stated . 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