Love to hate him?
Hate him after I love him? Hate myself after he loves me? I dunno... -sc From: Jeff Brown [mailto:2jbr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:18 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Good NT sysadmin list? I've been lurking here for a while and for the life of me I can't figure out if SHOOK is LOVED or HATED!!! But I think you are 100% correct. On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr <michealespin...@gmail.com> wrote: +1 The banter, trash-talk, and comradery go hand-in-hand with a genuinely good group of people. I think the noise is far more worth than a sterile robotic forum. Plus, its sometimes makes for the lighter part of an otherwise dismal day! Conversation/thread-view is a *must* in forums like this. -- ME2 On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Bob Fronk<b...@btrfronk.com> wrote: > I wouldn't want this list to change one bit. Sometimes I read the very OT > stuff, sometimes not. We get to know each other on this list and most of us > have never seen or spoken to one another. > > > > Truly, this thread is just more "noise" and the op is just adding to it by > starting the subject in the first place. > > > > Sort by conversation and liberal use of DEL is all that is needed. > > > > I find much value in this group and hope to see it continue to prosper. > > > > From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com] > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:26 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list? > > > > This list has always had its noise, it's unavoidable. It definitely seems to > be higher during the Summer months when the traffic is low. > > > > That being said, it's an invaluable resource. > > > > Don Guyer > > Systems Engineer - Information Services > > Prudential, Fox & Roach/Trident Group > > 431 W. Lancaster Avenue > > Devon, PA 19333 > > Direct: (610) 993-3299 > > Fax: (610) 650-5306 > > don.gu...@prufoxroach.com > > > > From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 1:43 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list? > > > > I agree the noise here is far too high lately... But I don't delete the > messages (takes time) or use conversation view; is it that hard just to > ignore a thread, not read it, and move on? Read what's important. Most on > topic questions get answered quickly and thoroughly imo. > > > > I think a little noise is needed to build a network and trust within the > contributors. It gives my a good laugh too from time to time. Stu always > seems to chime in at the right time to put things to a halt. > > > > -Sam > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Christopher [mailto:c.bo...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:12 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Good NT sysadmin list? > > Yeah, thank goodness for Gmail's conversation sorting (it has its > moments..). > > Althought I totally agree with Ben, you have to admit that the signal itself > has been pretty low lately so it makes the noise seem a lot worse.. > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Michael B. Smith > <mich...@owa.smithcons.com> wrote: > > If it weren't for OWA 2010's conversation view, I would've had to drop out > awhile ago. Thankfully, the Exchange list isn't quite as noisy. > > The only other "quality" forums I know of also have high-noise. > > ________________________________________ > From: Ken Schaefer [...@adopenstatic.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:03 PM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list? > > Personally I don't really want to wade through 100 messages deleting 75 of > them. When you get 5-600 messages a day, pressing delete for 75% of them > isn't scalable. > > I'm with Ben - can we either have less noise, or can someone recommend a > better list? > > Cheers > Ken > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray [mailto:rz...@qwest.net] > Sent: Friday, 28 August 2009 6:14 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Good NT sysadmin list? > > I'd be worried more if that 25% actually took up 25% of my time. But the > delete key's a beautiful thing. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 3:09 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Good NT sysadmin list? > > Anyone here know of a good email list to discuss NT sysadmin issues? > > Seriously, folks, the signal-to-noise ratio on this list is going to hell. > Today we had 15 messages on the definition of a word (here's a > tip: www.google.com), 37 on a cartoon, 8 on banjos, 5 on the security of > Mac's, 7 that were basically bitching about lack of recognition in one's > job, 4 asking if the list was up (email asking if email was working?!?), and > 1 get-well wish in a 3-day-old banned thread. That's 77. Oh, and about 20 > that were actually something like on-topic. > That's a ratio of about 4:1, or 25%. > > Twenty five percent. Ponder that a bit. Would you work for 25% of your > pay? Would you pass a student with a 25% grade average? > > I think it's one thing to have the occasional off-topic message or thread, > or occasional joke. This is something else entirely. This is the > occasional on-topic message in a sea of crap. I've seen Stu kill more > threads in the past 7 days than I've seen him do in the previous year. Is > it too much to ask that people act like adults and exercise a little > self-discipline? > > Whatever happened to "on-topic and low noise"? > > I realize I've been a sometime contributor to some of this myself, and from > this point forward I'm going to strive not to be. I ask that you please all > join me in that. > > -- Ben > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~
