At scale: +1

Small orgs can handle individual servers. At scale just about everything needs 
to be cookie-cutter / commoditised to make it manageable. And that means 
fitting into vendor support offerings and lifecycles. You can't have too many 
different pieces and given that an upgrade program takes a while to implement, 
you can't be waiting 5-6 years to kick something off.

Repurposing something into Test/Dev is fine if you are a small org. It's not 
feasible for large organisations.

Cheers
Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] 
Sent: Friday, 2 April 2010 4:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How would you go about this?

3-4 years is a VERY standard lifecycle in many orgs. Five years is really 
pushing it and means that you're likely using some sort of supplemental 
hardware/field service which is just an extra burden to manage. 

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132



-----Original Message-----
From: Angus Scott-Fleming [mailto:angu...@geoapps.com]
Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 6:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: How would you go about this?

On 26 Mar 2010 at 10:05, Mike Gill  wrote:

> if you canĀ“t get at least 5 years out of your servers before 
> replacement, then IMO you need help. -- Mike Gill

FWIW I'm about to write a memo to a client telling them we need to replace 
their Windows 2000 Server box, which I put in sometime in 2004.



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