Mush work? Moving the messages out on dog sleds? On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 1:17 PM, KenM <kenmli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree that TEC is a great conference to go to. This will be my third year > going. Lots of really smart people to meet and listen to. I saw Brett's > presentaion last year at Vegas and thought the same thing as you. I saw > Brian Desmonds presentaions last year and thought they were excellent, > looing forward to his again this year. I do not do that mush work on > Exchange so I have not seen one of MBS presentaion but I met him last year. > I have been on this list for several years now but usually do not have time > to post, i look forward to seeing some of you there and put a face to the > names I see posting all the time. > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Free, Bob <r...@pge.com> wrote: > >> Mere words can’t describe Brett, seeing him and joe go at it was not to >> be missed. His stuff last year on ESE was amazing and even the uber-experts >> were shaking their heads so I didn’t feel so bad. Until I saw him last year, >> to me, he was just a mythical creature on activdir AKA “Building #7 >> Garage Door Operator” who wrote many of the moving parts of AD for like 5+ >> years before moving over to ESE. It was storied that they never let him off >> campus. When I first heard joe say something like, “I don’t understand a lot >> of what he says but I always listen and try to” I was a little skeptical , >> but I started trying to follow what he wrote on activdir and made sure to >> listen to him last year. Scary smart indeed. Of similar caliber is ~Eric >> Fleishman but I thought I heard he moved on to a different world. I have not >> had the opportunity to hear Ross Smith, I will have to make a point of that. >> >> >> >> Oh and don’t sell yourself short, I would hardly call what I have seen of >> your work “filler”. You are too modest J >> >> >> >> Here’s part of a funny bit I saved from Brett from a few years ago when >> they were talking about theoretical limits of AD/ESE- >> >> >> >> “Anyway along time ago we (some AD people) went through all the various >> aspects, issues, etc and we came up with "the safe value", that special >> value we wanted to claim / support ... and we started saying 1 billion was >> the official limit. I updated the wikipedia topic on it awhile back. >> >> >> >> The issue joe mentioned with the # of pages in an ESE database being 2^31 >> ... I like to state it as: "Jordie (my pseudonym for a paticularly talented >> developer) took away the high bit before he moved off the ESE team, and >> won't give it back.". <g> That is the funny way to say, paranoia drove one >> of us to cap it to explicitly positive page numbers. Given that the file >> system is limited to 16 TBs for a single file for some paticular (?default? >> 4k? max?) "allocation size", I don't really see this being fixed anytime >> soon... >> >> >> >> My confidence ranges from 53% to 72% for all the above info ... I don't >> give a confidence of more than 80% to anything I didn't personally verify in >> code, and never a confidence of over 90% that I didn't personally test that >> the code worked like it looked ... that is experience talking. >> >> Confidences of 53% to 72% probably means talented and smart / >> non-blowheart types told me this information. >> >> >> >> *Cough* ... for the realists ... >> >> >> >> I've heard of two production ADs in excess of 50 M (less than 100 M >> though), and have seen 46, 85 and 100 M object test DITs. I've never seen >> an AD database in excess of 100 GBs in size. Basically, I'm neither worried >> about the # of objects nor the database size of AD databases, as clearly >> people haven't even gotten to an order of magnitude of the theoretical >> limits, and we've still tested higher than production deployments I've heard >> of / seen. 3 - 5 M is common for e-commerce directories. >> >> >> >> While thoretically we could give ~2/7ths of the world an account in a >> single AD database, that is not practical, limitations on backup/restore >> time, SLAs, amount of query load per server, will likely cause one to scale >> out and _probably_ partition (via NCs replicated to only some ADAM >> >> instances) before going to billion area scales. Management of database >> size on these scales is non-trivial, and drives the real per server #'s of >> objects / database sizes one should support down below 1 billion. >> >> >> >> Even e-commece doesn't care about these kind of numbers, because if you >> look at the income of the 1 billionth richest person in the world, you'll >> probably realize she/he is not worth selling to. Only hippies and the U.N. >> care about going above 1 billion accounts.” >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] >> *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2010 2:34 PM >> >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> *Subject:* RE: Security - Marc Maiffret >> >> >> >> And…on the AD/Exchange side of the fence, you should DEFINITELY hear Brett >> Shirley talk – he is one of the lead developers for ESE (the database >> platform on which Exchange and AD are based – he’s scary smart). I’m going >> to lock him into a room in LA and MAKE him give me some code this year he >> promised me last year. J >> >> >> >> For Exchange, you gotta see Ross Smith, IV (one of the absolute best >> Exchange people I’ve ever met) and Dmitri Gavrilov (who used to be on the AD >> team and is now on the Exchange team and can explain DSAccess/ADProxy so >> that it actually makes sense). >> >> >> >> (Not to mention me, Ilse, Scott, Nicolas, David, Juergen, etc. etc. – but >> compared to the headliners, we are just filler.) >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Michael B. Smith >> >> Consultant and Exchange MVP >> >> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/> >> >> >> >> *From:* Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] >> *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2010 5:19 PM >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> *Subject:* RE: Security - Marc Maiffret >> >> >> >> I would be remiss if I didn’t mention to check out Brian Desmond’s >> presentations, I think he has at least 3. He is also totally top-notch. >> >> >> >> *From:* Tim Evans [mailto:tev...@sparling.com] >> *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2010 10:24 AM >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> *Subject:* RE: Security - Marc Maiffret >> >> >> >> And it is because of your comments (and Joe Richards') about TEC that I >> decided it give it a try. So, if I don't learn anything there, it must be >> your fault :-) >> >> >> >> ...Tim >> >> >> >> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] >> *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2010 10:07 AM >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> *Subject:* RE: Security - Marc Maiffret >> >> >> >> And I will say that I personally find TEC more valuable than TechEd. >> >> >> >> Lots of very smart people willing to sit down with a beer and answer >> questions for you. No 100/200 level presentations. 350/400. Great stuff. >> >> >> >> I’ve known Bob for probably 10 years now on this mailing list. First met >> him physically at TEC (it was DEC – Directory Experts Conference then). >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Michael B. Smith >> >> Consultant and Exchange MVP >> >> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/> >> >> >> >> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] >> *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2010 1:02 PM >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> *Subject:* RE: Security - Marc Maiffret >> >> >> >> The Experts Conference. They have AD, IdM, Exchange, and SharePoint >> tracks. >> >> >> >> www.tec2010.com >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Michael B. Smith >> >> Consultant and Exchange MVP >> >> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/> >> >> >> >> *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2010 1:00 PM >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> *Subject:* Re: Security - Marc Maiffret >> >> >> >> What is this TEC everyone is speaking about? June always is not a good >> time for me for Tech Ed, an April or May conference would be preferrable. >> >> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Tim Evans <tev...@sparling.com> wrote: >> >> Cool! >> >> I'm looking forward to your workshop and meeting you guys. This will be my >> first TEC. I'm doing it this year instead of Tech Ed. >> >> >> >> ...Tim >> >> >> >> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] >> *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2010 9:06 AM >> >> >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> >> *Subject:* RE: Security - Marc Maiffret >> >> >> >> /waves back….glad you got approved to go! >> >> >> >> I’ve finished my presentation slides and am madly working to get my >> pre-conference workshop material done… >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Michael B. Smith >> >> Consultant and Exchange MVP >> >> http://TheEssentialExchange.com <http://theessentialexchange.com/> >> >> >> >> *From:* Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com] >> *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2010 11:59 AM >> >> >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> *Subject:* RE: Security - Marc Maiffret >> >> >> >> Yes, he has for a number of years. It was really ironic that my manager >> and I were chatting about him Wed night as his firm was doing some work with >> our infosec team because she knew he and I used to keep in contact, then >> this article hit the newsfeeds the next day. Maybe more eerily coincidental >> J >> >> >> >> He and I chatted a little yesterday and I hope to meet up with him when >> I’m down there at the end of the month for TEC. >> >> >> >> /waves at MBS- See you the 25th >> >> >> >> *From:* Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2010 8:27 AM >> *To:* NT System Admin Issues >> *Subject:* Security - Marc Maiffret >> >> >> >> http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20002317-245.html >> >> >> >> Doesn't Marc post here from time to time? Good interview. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~