That's just your subtractive opinion.

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Steven M. Caesare <scaes...@caesare.com>wrote:

> Subjection skills ain’t what they used to be.
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> -sc
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> *From:* Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 26, 2010 3:40 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Big Changes Ahead for IT - Anyone seen this?
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> What? That can subject 2 from 32? J
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> Regards,
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> Michael B. Smith
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> Consultant and Exchange MVP
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> http://TheEssentialExchange.com
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> *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 26, 2010 3:35 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Big Changes Ahead for IT - Anyone seen this?
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> I’d love to have candidates with that ability. They are hard to find…
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> -sc
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> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:20 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Big Changes Ahead for IT - Anyone seen this?
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> I would fail the OSI part (sure I could Google it just now) as it was back
> in the NetWare days that I learned about it in a class. Heard of it, does
> that count? 27-bit subnet? Not off the top of my head, I’d have to think
> “okay a .128 mask is 25 bits…”. I can explain DNS and forwarding, MX
> records, Aliases, HOSTS file, DHCP incl. reservations, and give you “jack of
> all trades” firewall info, conceptualize memory protection rings, and go to
> town on registry, AD and GPO design as well as give examples of being able
> to handle a near vertical learning curve. Am I hired?
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> The way I view being  an IT guy is day in and day out I’m not necessarily
> using $30/hr expertise, but there are spikes where I feel I surpass the
> “I’ve got certs but no real IT skills” Joe at figuring something out and at
> those times word 2-3x my nominal salary so on balance it works out.
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> That’s my story I’m stickin’ to it.
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> *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:22 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Big Changes Ahead for IT - Anyone seen this?
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> It’s kinda funny that you mention the OSI model, since there are any number
> of people here that will dismiss it as irrelevant (personally I think that
> it’s very relevant to know if you want to advance in an IT career)
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> Corporations, in an ever ending quest to cut costs (or at least, regulate
> costs) will not continue to pay ludicrous amounts of money for the dross
> that the IT industry produces. There are far too many people being paid
> inflated salaries in this industry, without being able to deliver
> tangible/measurable results. One only needs to look at project delivery in
> large corporations, and at the small end, the dedicated people who manage to
> do tasks in a manual manner (this list included has people who have the time
> to spend working out the best way to do some task for an individual user,
> yet they must get paid $30-60k, which no other industry would accept).
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> As the industry matures there simply will not be the opportunity for
> mediocrity to survive, just like every other mature industry. If you are
> merely average, you’ll earn an average salary, and you won’t be part of “IT”
> – or you might be part of an IT provider conglomerate. If you want to be a
> 6-7 figure earner, then you’ll need to provide ever increasing levels of
> business value, just like every other industry (with the possible exception
> of Sales, where a really good pitch can make up for lack of substance, but
> let’s not confuse sales and delivery J )
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> Cheers
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> Ken
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> *From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 26 May 2010 11:39 PM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Big Changes Ahead for IT - Anyone seen this?
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> I’ve dismissed more network candidates than I can remember because they
> couldn’t calculate the number of hosts in a subnet. Or had even heard of an
> OSI model.
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> Systems “Engineers” who are at a loss to even at a high level explain the
> ideas of process, threads, memory protection, etc… Windows Admins who are
> clueless about registry interaction, CMD line tools, authorization
> principles, environment variables, etc…
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> Tis sad.
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> -sc
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> *From:* David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:07 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Big Changes Ahead for IT - Anyone seen this?
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> Slide 10 actually nails what I see:
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> “Technology and confidence in the workforce is broadening but losing its
> depth (more employees understand how to exploit technology, but fewer have
> deep technical expertise). I agree with that one. Case in point: Us old
> timers understand %PATH% and that it’s concept is still relevant behind the
> scenes, how many guys who have only seen Win95 and later know what it means?
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> Like Erik said, most anyone can install Windows and its applications. How
> many of those really understand what’s going on?
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> Dave
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> *From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 26, 2010 6:49 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* RE: Big Changes Ahead for IT - Anyone seen this?
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> +1
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> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:40 AM
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Big Changes Ahead for IT - Anyone seen this?
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> The fact is that as technology becomes more prevalent, MOST people desire
> to learn less about it.
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> The ubiquity of automobiles has not led to more auto mechanics, but rather
> to an even smaller percentage of car owners being able to deal with even
> routine maintenance on a vehicle.
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> There is no reason to believe that this trend will not manifest itself with
> computer technology.
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> In order to make things appear simple enough for the every-day 
> user<http://home.asbzone.com/ASB/archive/2009/11/16/where-simplicity-and-technology-really-intersect.aspx>,
> the complexity gets encapsulated somewhere -- typically in the integration
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> The main problem is the use of the terms "deploy IT apps" which probably
> means something very different to them than it does to us.  Similar to how
> people who can put together some basic macros think that they are
> "programmers".
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> -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker
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