Companies have caused many of these problems for themselves  based on the
training policies.

-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker

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On May 26, 2010 12:22 PM, "Ken Schaefer" <k...@adopenstatic.com> wrote:

It’s kinda funny that you mention the OSI model, since there are any number
of people here that will dismiss it as irrelevant (personally I think that
it’s very relevant to know if you want to advance in an IT career)



Corporations, in an ever ending quest to cut costs (or at least, regulate
costs) will not continue to pay ludicrous amounts of money for the dross
that the IT industry produces. There are far too many people being paid
inflated salaries in this industry, without being able to deliver
tangible/measurable results. One only needs to look at project delivery in
large corporations, and at the small end, the dedicated people who manage to
do tasks in a manual manner (this list included has people who have the time
to spend working out the best way to do some task for an individual user,
yet they must get paid $30-60k, which no other industry would accept).



As the industry matures there simply will not be the opportunity for
mediocrity to survive, just like every other mature industry. If you are
merely average, you’ll earn an average salary, and you won’t be part of “IT”
– or you might be part of an IT provider conglomerate. If you want to be a
6-7 figure earner, then you’ll need to provide ever increasing levels of
business value, just like every other industry (with the possible exception
of Sales, where a really good pitch can make up for lack of substance, but
let’s not confuse sales and delivery J )



Cheers

Ken



*From:* Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, 26 May 2010 11:39 PM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Big Changes Ahead for IT - Anyone seen this?



I’ve dismissed more network candidates than I can remember because they
couldn’t calculate the number of hosts in a subnet. Or had even heard of an
OSI model.





Systems “Engineers” who are at a loss to even at a high level explain the
ideas of process, thr...

*From:* David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org]
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:07 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Big Changes Ahead for IT - Anyone seen this?



Slide 10 actually nails what I see:





“Technology and confidence in the workforce is broadening but losing its
depth (more employees ...

*From:* John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 26, 2010 6:49 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Big Changes Ahead for IT - Anyone seen this?



+1





*From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:40 AM


To: NT System Admin Issues

Subject: Re: Big Changes Ahead for IT - Anyone seen this?





The fact is that as technology becomes more prevalent, MOST people desire to
learn less about i...

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