From: Don Kuhlman [mailto:drkuhl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: 26 May 2010 18:41
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Big Changes Ahead for IT - Anyone seen this?
I remember the pizza one, but another that I always remember because it vaguely
amuses is:
Princess
Diana
Never
Tried
Sh*gging
Prince
Andrew
J
Paul G.
I like that one - I learned it the other way around :0
All Application
People Presentation
Seem Session
To Transport
Need Network
Data Data/LLC
Processing Physical
Don K
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From: "greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net" <greg.swe...@actsconsulting.net>
To: NT System Admin Issues <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 12:25:09 PM
Subject: RE: Big Changes Ahead for IT - Anyone seen this?
Please Physical
Do Data/LLC
Not Network
Throw Transport
Sausage Session
Pizza Presentation
Away Application
You will never fail the basic again. Now what each does.. J
From: David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Big Changes Ahead for IT - Anyone seen this?
I would fail the OSI part (sure I could Google it just now) as it was back in
the NetWare days that I learned about it in a class. Heard of it, does that
count? 27-bit subnet? Not off the top of my head, I’d have to think “okay a
.128 mask is 25 bits…”. I can explain DNS and forwarding, MX records, Aliases,
HOSTS file, DHCP incl. reservations, and give you “jack of all trades” firewall
info, conceptualize memory protection rings, and go to town on registry, AD and
GPO design as well as give examples of being able to handle a near vertical
learning curve. Am I hired?
The way I view being an IT guy is day in and day out I’m not necessarily using
$30/hr expertise, but there are spikes where I feel I surpass the “I’ve got
certs but no real IT skills” Joe at figuring something out and at those times
word 2-3x my nominal salary so on balance it works out.
That’s my story I’m stickin’ to it.
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Big Changes Ahead for IT - Anyone seen this?
It’s kinda funny that you mention the OSI model, since there are any number of
people here that will dismiss it as irrelevant (personally I think that it’s
very relevant to know if you want to advance in an IT career)
Corporations, in an ever ending quest to cut costs (or at least, regulate
costs) will not continue to pay ludicrous amounts of money for the dross that
the IT industry produces. There are far too many people being paid inflated
salaries in this industry, without being able to deliver tangible/measurable
results. One only needs to look at project delivery in large corporations, and
at the small end, the dedicated people who manage to do tasks in a manual
manner (this list included has people who have the time to spend working out
the best way to do some task for an individual user, yet they must get paid
$30-60k, which no other industry would accept).
As the industry matures there simply will not be the opportunity for mediocrity
to survive, just like every other mature industry. If you are merely average,
you’ll earn an average salary, and you won’t be part of “IT” – or you might be
part of an IT provider conglomerate. If you want to be a 6-7 figure earner,
then you’ll need to provide ever increasing levels of business value, just like
every other industry (with the possible exception of Sales, where a really good
pitch can make up for lack of substance, but let’s not confuse sales and
delivery J )
Cheers
Ken
From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 26 May 2010 11:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Big Changes Ahead for IT - Anyone seen this?
I’ve dismissed more network candidates than I can remember because they
couldn’t calculate the number of hosts in a subnet. Or had even heard of an OSI
model.
Systems “Engineers” who are at a loss to even at a high level explain the ideas
of process, threads, memory protection, etc… Windows Admins who are clueless
about registry interaction, CMD line tools, authorization principles,
environment variables, etc…
Tis sad.
-sc
From: David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org]
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Big Changes Ahead for IT - Anyone seen this?
Slide 10 actually nails what I see:
“Technology and confidence in the workforce is broadening but losing its depth
(more employees understand how to exploit technology, but fewer have deep
technical expertise). I agree with that one. Case in point: Us old timers
understand %PATH% and that it’s concept is still relevant behind the scenes,
how many guys who have only seen Win95 and later know what it means?
Like Erik said, most anyone can install Windows and its applications. How many
of those really understand what’s going on?
Dave
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 6:49 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Big Changes Ahead for IT - Anyone seen this?
+1
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 9:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Big Changes Ahead for IT - Anyone seen this?
The fact is that as technology becomes more prevalent, MOST people desire to
learn less about it.
The ubiquity of automobiles has not led to more auto mechanics, but rather to
an even smaller percentage of car owners being able to deal with even routine
maintenance on a vehicle.
There is no reason to believe that this trend will not manifest itself with
computer technology.
In order to make things
<http://home.asbzone.com/ASB/archive/2009/11/16/where-simplicity-and-technology-really-intersect.aspx>
appear simple enough for the every-day user, the complexity gets encapsulated
somewhere -- typically in the integration realm.
The main problem is the use of the terms "deploy IT apps" which probably means
something very different to them than it does to us. Similar to how people who
can put together some basic macros think that they are "programmers".
-ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker
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