Very good data.

Single file copied, or multiple files? If multiple files, how many and
average size?

Robocopy, xcopy or just copy - and what switches?

Picky, picky, picky...

Kurt

On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 08:40, Bob Hartung <bhart...@wiscoind.com> wrote:
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> Well, I can't attach SATA drives to my servers but here's the test I ran.
>
> Server: Dell PowerEdge 2650 with
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> E: Drive - internal PERC3 SCSI RAID 5 (Ultra320) E: Drive
> F: Drive - external SCSI Drive Array attached to PERC4 SCSI RAID 5 (Ultra 320)
> G: Drive - Drobo Elite connected via Gigabit Ethernet
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> I copied 2.1 GB from E: to F: in 4:36 or 476.9 MB/Min.
> I copied 2.1 GB from E: to G: in 5:18 or 413.9 MB/Min.
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> ----------------------
>
> Bob Hartung
> Wisco Industries, Inc.
> 736 Janesville St.
> Oregon, WI 53575
> Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
> Fax: (608) 835-7399
> e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com
>
> ________________________________
> From: Tim Evans [mailto:tev...@sparling.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 18:13:23 -0500
> Subject: RE: RE: SAN Solution
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> How's the iSCSI performance on that unit? Compared to direct attached SATA 
> for example?
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> ...Tim
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> From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 8:09 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: RE: SAN Solution
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> The Elite is bundled with WD drives, either a consumer grade or an 
> enterprise. We went with the enterprise (DREL1A21-WD2002FYPS-8). You should 
> be able to pick the unit up for around $6000.
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> For connection, I'm using a stand-alone HP Procurve Gigabit switch. Each 
> server has 2 nics. Each server's 2nd nic card is connected to the HP Procurve 
> and setup on different subnet than the regular network uses.
>
> It took me awhile to work out the MS ISCSI initiator stuff since I'd had no 
> experience with it before.
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> And I don't know if I'd characterize it as "instead of a SAN". As far as I 
> can see, it's a SAN.
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> ----------------------
>
> Bob Hartung
> Wisco Industries, Inc.
> 736 Janesville St.
> Oregon, WI 53575
> Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
> Fax: (608) 835-7399
> e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 09:01:18 -0500
> Subject: RE: RE: SAN Solution
>
> Nifty. I’m assuming these are “Enterprise” SATA drives? How does it connect 
> to your existing servers, and approximately how much does something like that 
> cost? That might be something I would want to look at using instead of a SAN.
>
>
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>
>
> From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 9:42 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: RE: SAN Solution
>
>
>
> I'm using the Drobo Elite for backups as well. It's where I store workstation 
> images I create in Acronis. It is also the disk-to-disk storage I use for 
> Arcserve server backups.
>
> I chose the somewhat more expensive Drobo Elite over a number of NAS 
> alternatives for a number of reasons...
>
> Rather than simulate MS network privaleges like most NASs do, I preferred 
> being able to simply share the Drobo's space via my existing servers. That 
> way I'm using MS sharing and security.
> It's a SAN network which segregates storage traffic from the rest of the 
> network.
> It supplies a pool of storage that I can parcel out to any of my servers as 
> conditions evolve.
> I've got 16 TB of space. And it's all dynamically available to each 
> partition. It took me a while to get this. You make every partition a 16 TB 
> partition. That way, all partitions can use available storage without having 
> to change partition sizes by destroying them and recreating them.
> You can stick in any size SATA drive and it's added to the storage pool. 
> Right now I have 8 2TB drives but when 3 and 4TB drives come out, I can swap 
> out a 2TB drive and increase storage. Doesn't matter which slot you stick a 
> drive in either.
> Currently I'm using 2 drives for fault tolerance so if one fails, the RAID 
> continues to operate with redundancy.
>
> ----------------------
>
> Bob Hartung
> Wisco Industries, Inc.
> 736 Janesville St.
> Oregon, WI 53575
> Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215
> Fax: (608) 835-7399
> e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Jay Dale [mailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com]
> To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
> Sent: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 08:17:07 -0500
> Subject: RE: RE: SAN Solution
>
> Exactly what we use it for..:)
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>
> Jay Dale
>
> I.T. Manager, 3GiG
>
> Mobile: 713.299.2541
>
> Email: jay.d...@3-gig.com
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> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 8:07 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: RE: SAN Solution
>
>
>
> As I recall from the specs, it only supports one client...which would be good 
> for backups, or a small single (physical) server environment.
>
> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Jay Dale <jay.d...@3-gig.com> wrote:
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> It works fine for just the backups, but we want something that not only can 
> hold the backups but also a data repo for the VM's as well as the user data 
> and image backups of laptops.
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>
>
> Jay
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> From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 5:22 PM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
>
> Subject: Re: RE: SAN Solution
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> And what do you think of it?
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> -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker
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> Sent from my Motorola Droid
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> On Jun 7, 2010 4:51 PM, "Jay Dale" <jay.d...@3-gig.com> wrote:
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> Ironically, we have a 2TB one of those right now holding the VM Backups…J
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>
> Jay Dale
>
> I.T. Manager, 3GiG
>
> Mobile: 713.299.2541
>
> Email: jay.d...@3-gig.com
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>
>
> Confidentiali...
>
> From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 3:49 PM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: SAN Solution
>
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> Looks like something I would get for my home network...
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