RS8-IP4 with 8x 500gb ES.2 SATA disks 3410 IOPS 50%read 50%write with IO Meter
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Kurt Buff <kurt.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > The use of DnD in explorer definitely explains some of the slowness. Good > stuff! > > Kurt > > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:59, Bob Hartung <bhart...@wiscoind.com> wrote: >> I copied a directory that had 6,980 files and 644 folders; largest file 200 >> MB, avg file size .3 MB. >> >> I just did a plain jane drag and drop copy in Windows Explorer. >> >> ---------------------- >> >> Bob Hartung >> Wisco Industries, Inc. >> 736 Janesville St. >> Oregon, WI 53575 >> Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 >> Fax: (608) 835-7399 >> e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] >> To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] >> Sent: Wed, 09 Jun 2010 13:45:34 -0500 >> Subject: Re: RE: SAN Solution >> >> Very good data. >> >> Single file copied, or multiple files? If multiple files, how many and >> average size? >> >> Robocopy, xcopy or just copy - and what switches? >> >> Picky, picky, picky... >> >> Kurt >> >> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 08:40, Bob Hartung <bhart...@wiscoind.com> wrote: >>> >>> Well, I can't attach SATA drives to my servers but here's the test I ran. >>> >>> Server: Dell PowerEdge 2650 with >>> >>> E: Drive - internal PERC3 SCSI RAID 5 (Ultra320) E: Drive >>> F: Drive - external SCSI Drive Array attached to PERC4 SCSI RAID 5 (Ultra >>> 320) >>> G: Drive - Drobo Elite connected via Gigabit Ethernet >>> >>> I copied 2.1 GB from E: to F: in 4:36 or 476.9 MB/Min. >>> I copied 2.1 GB from E: to G: in 5:18 or 413.9 MB/Min. >>> >>> >>> ---------------------- >>> >>> Bob Hartung >>> Wisco Industries, Inc. >>> 736 Janesville St. >>> Oregon, WI 53575 >>> Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 >>> Fax: (608) 835-7399 >>> e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Tim Evans [mailto:tev...@sparling.com] >>> To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] >>> Sent: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 18:13:23 -0500 >>> Subject: RE: RE: SAN Solution >>> >>> How's the iSCSI performance on that unit? Compared to direct attached SATA >>> for example? >>> >>> >>> >>> ...Tim >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 8:09 AM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: RE: RE: SAN Solution >>> >>> >>> >>> The Elite is bundled with WD drives, either a consumer grade or an >>> enterprise. We went with the enterprise (DREL1A21-WD2002FYPS-8). You should >>> be able to pick the unit up for around $6000. >>> >>> For connection, I'm using a stand-alone HP Procurve Gigabit switch. Each >>> server has 2 nics. Each server's 2nd nic card is connected to the HP >>> Procurve and setup on different subnet than the regular network uses. >>> >>> It took me awhile to work out the MS ISCSI initiator stuff since I'd had >>> no experience with it before. >>> >>> And I don't know if I'd characterize it as "instead of a SAN". As far as I >>> can see, it's a SAN. >>> >>> ---------------------- >>> >>> Bob Hartung >>> Wisco Industries, Inc. >>> 736 Janesville St. >>> Oregon, WI 53575 >>> Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 >>> Fax: (608) 835-7399 >>> e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] >>> To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] >>> Sent: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 09:01:18 -0500 >>> Subject: RE: RE: SAN Solution >>> >>> Nifty. I’m assuming these are “Enterprise” SATA drives? How does it >>> connect to your existing servers, and approximately how much does something >>> like that cost? That might be something I would want to look at using >>> instead of a SAN. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Bob Hartung [mailto:bhart...@wiscoind.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 9:42 AM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: RE: RE: SAN Solution >>> >>> >>> >>> I'm using the Drobo Elite for backups as well. It's where I store >>> workstation images I create in Acronis. It is also the disk-to-disk storage >>> I use for Arcserve server backups. >>> >>> I chose the somewhat more expensive Drobo Elite over a number of NAS >>> alternatives for a number of reasons... >>> >>> Rather than simulate MS network privaleges like most NASs do, I preferred >>> being able to simply share the Drobo's space via my existing servers. That >>> way I'm using MS sharing and security. >>> It's a SAN network which segregates storage traffic from the rest of the >>> network. >>> It supplies a pool of storage that I can parcel out to any of my servers >>> as conditions evolve. >>> I've got 16 TB of space. And it's all dynamically available to each >>> partition. It took me a while to get this. You make every partition a 16 TB >>> partition. That way, all partitions can use available storage without having >>> to change partition sizes by destroying them and recreating them. >>> You can stick in any size SATA drive and it's added to the storage pool. >>> Right now I have 8 2TB drives but when 3 and 4TB drives come out, I can swap >>> out a 2TB drive and increase storage. Doesn't matter which slot you stick a >>> drive in either. >>> Currently I'm using 2 drives for fault tolerance so if one fails, the RAID >>> continues to operate with redundancy. >>> >>> ---------------------- >>> >>> Bob Hartung >>> Wisco Industries, Inc. >>> 736 Janesville St. >>> Oregon, WI 53575 >>> Tel: (608) 835-3106 x215 >>> Fax: (608) 835-7399 >>> e-mail: bhartung(at)wiscoind.com >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> From: Jay Dale [mailto:jay.d...@3-gig.com] >>> To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] >>> Sent: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 08:17:07 -0500 >>> Subject: RE: RE: SAN Solution >>> >>> Exactly what we use it for..:) >>> >>> >>> >>> Jay Dale >>> >>> I.T. Manager, 3GiG >>> >>> Mobile: 713.299.2541 >>> >>> Email: jay.d...@3-gig.com >>> >>> >>> >>> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any attached files, may >>> contain confidential and/or privileged information for the sole use of the >>> intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby >>> notified that any review, dissemination or copying of this e-mail and >>> attachments, if any, or the information contained herein, is strictly >>> prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive >>> information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply >>> e-mail and delete all copies of this message. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 8:07 PM >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: Re: RE: SAN Solution >>> >>> >>> >>> As I recall from the specs, it only supports one client...which would be >>> good for backups, or a small single (physical) server environment. >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Jay Dale <jay.d...@3-gig.com> wrote: >>> >>> It works fine for just the backups, but we want something that not only >>> can hold the backups but also a data repo for the VM's as well as the user >>> data and image backups of laptops. >>> >>> >>> >>> Jay >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 5:22 PM >>> >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> >>> Subject: Re: RE: SAN Solution >>> >>> >>> >>> And what do you think of it? >>> >>> -ASB: http://XeeSM.com/AndrewBaker >>> >>> Sent from my Motorola Droid >>> >>> On Jun 7, 2010 4:51 PM, "Jay Dale" <jay.d...@3-gig.com> wrote: >>> >>> Ironically, we have a 2TB one of those right now holding the VM Backups…J >>> >>> >>> >>> Jay Dale >>> >>> I.T. Manager, 3GiG >>> >>> Mobile: 713.299.2541 >>> >>> Email: jay.d...@3-gig.com >>> >>> >>> >>> Confidentiali... >>> >>> From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] >>> Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 3:49 PM >>> >>> To: NT System Admin Issues >>> Subject: Re: SAN Solution >>> >>> >>> >>> Looks like something I would get for my home network... >>> >>> >>> >>> I like this one: >>> >>> http://www.drobos... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ >> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ >> >> >> >> > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~ > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/> ~