HIPAA
SOX
MA 201 CMR 17.00

To varying degrees they all boil down to:

We define a security policy that meets the regulatory requirements and base
configurations to meet that policy and then report regularly on performance
to standards.  I see from one of your follow-up posts that Apple Remote
Desktop is akin to Group Policy.

-Jeff Steward

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Matthew W. Ross <mr...@ephrataschools.org>wrote:

> Can you be more specific? What standards are you needing to be compliant
> to? An example regulation would help me answer your question.
>
>
>
> --Matt Ross
> Ephrata School District
>
> On Sep 7, 2010, at 10:26 AM, "Jeff Steward" <jstew...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> A school environment is not the same as a public company environment.
>  Compliance to <insert your favorite standard here> and reporting on said
> compliance or non-trivial issues for public companies or private companies
> subject to other regulations.  There are a wealth of tools for managing
> these issues in a Windows environment, can the same be said of the Mac
> environment?
>
> -Jeff Steward
>
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Matthew W. Ross <<mr...@ephrataschools.org>
> mr...@ephrataschools.org> wrote:
>
>> Macs are not the burden you make them sound to be.
>>
>> Integrating a Mac into a windows network is never going to be painless;
>> the two systems are inherently different. If what you want is a Windows
>> experience from your Mac, install Windows.
>>
>> Now not everybody likes MacOS X, but the same can be said for Windows.
>> Insert the problem of subjective preference here.
>>
>> Personally, I love working on my iMac, and managing the other Macs in our
>> district is very easy if you use the provided Apple tools: Mac OS X server,
>> Open Directory, and Apple Remote Desktop.
>>
>> Then again, I hate how a Mac _can_ cost 2x as much as a comparable PC. I
>> do like that software upgrades are cheaper for Mac, but I don't like how
>> apple drops support for anything that is not the current generation or the
>> previous one. If you're 2 generations back, you're out of luck.
>>
>> What can a Mac do that a PC Can't? Nothing. But I would argue that
>> competition is one of the pillars of innovation. Without Mac OS X competing
>> against Windows, what would Windows look like today?
>>
>>
>> --Matt Ross
>> Ephrata School District
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: James Hill
>> [mailto: <james.h...@superamart.com.au>james.h...@superamart.com.au]
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> [mailto: <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
>> ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
>> Sent: Sun, 05 Sep 2010
>> 19:28:49 -0700
>> Subject: RE: Mac and Windows mix
>>
>>
>> > We have pretty much eliminated all of the Mac's here.
>> >
>> > We didn't have 3rd party products to manage them so they always required
>> so
>> > much manual interaction.  Any global change we made we could easily
>> automate
>> > with PC's thanks to group policy etc but it was always a manual change
>> for
>> > the Mac's.
>> >
>> > They really aren't a corporate product imo.  You only have to look to
>> Apple
>> > for a corporate grade management solution to realise that it doesn't
>> exist.
>> >
>> > They do indeed need patching ( <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222>
>> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222) and there
>> > is AV products for them.  Symantec has one for example.  Personally I
>> think
>> > the day is coming when someone will write a decent bit of malware/virus
>> for
>> > them and 99% plus will get caught out by it.  There is a very misguided
>> > opinion amongst the Apple community that they are safe.  Apple's false
>> > advertising only strengthens this.  The facts are that Mac's are more
>> > vulnerable than the PC world <http://www.crn.com/security/226200083>
>> http://www.crn.com/security/226200083
>> >
>> > More importantly, what is the need for the Mac's in the first place?
>>  For us
>> > they were only sued for Adobe CS, which runs just fine on PC's.  In fact
>> > these days Adobe is more behind the PC world than the Mac.  For example,
>> > 64bit Photoshop was first on PC, had to wait for CS5 for Mac to get it.
>> > That's without going into the Flash debate :)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: David Lum [mailto: <david....@nwea.org>david....@nwea.org]
>> > Sent: Saturday, 4 September 2010 6:07 AM
>> > To: NT System Admin Issues
>> > Subject: Mac and Windows mix
>> >
>> > I would like to hear from those of you who have a mixed Windows/Mac
>> > environments: How do you handle management of the diverse environment?
>> > Presumably with Mac's there is no patching or AV. Can you use GPO's on
>> them
>> > in any fashion (wondering if there's some add-in to allow equivalency).
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