Well, if the desktop users are non-admins, then they won't be able to install file sharing programs or iTunes itself. I agree we should do everything we can to discourage illegal file sharing, but I think that this whole discussion of iTunes is a red-herring WRT illegal file sharing. iTunes is NOT a file sharing app. It *is* a front-end for the iTunes store, and iTunes files do have a tendency to be large, causing problems, but iTunes in and of itself is not a file-sharing service.
I don't have much experience with iTunes myself, preferring other media players (not to mention it isn't even available for my preferred O/S) but my understanding of it is that it presupposes you are going to BUY legitimate multimedia files from the iTunes store, which is perfectly legal, since you are paying for the content. Note that I am NOT condoning the practice of installing iTunes on a work computer, I'm simply saying that in my PERSONAL opinion, equating iTunes with illegal file sharing is not correct. There are many other reasons, previously mentioned by many others, for not wanting to allow iTunes to be installed on a business computer, but concerns that it encourages illegal file sharing??? Personally, I think that's incorrect. My 2¢. Thanks, John Aldrich IT Manager, Blueridge Carpet 706-276-2001, Ext. 2233 From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:10 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: iTunes Isn't that liability mitigation through obscurity, then? We discuss the importance of being complete and thorough in discharing our duties. It isn't even the vector for transmission, it just encourages a behavior, because it makes these files readily available for easy viewing/listening/browsing. Windows Media Player does the same thing? Are users familiar with it? In my experience, if iTunes isn't available people quickly turn to it. Choosing not to install iTunes to prevent illegal file sharing is a lot like a consumer buying a Mac because it is more secure. The behavior needs to be addressed. Whether iTunes is allowable or not is an entirely different consideration. We're doing a disservice if we as a community suggest that if you don't install iTunes, you won't have problems with illegal file sharing. In my experience, that isn't the case. -Jonathan On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Andrew S. Baker <asbz...@gmail.com> wrote: I'm going to have to disagree, Jonathan Mere file copying is not what we're discussing here. As Erik notes, iTunes facilitates the copying/uploading a GB of files in a single bound. Anecdotally, the number of people using iTunes for this purpose over WMP is probably 20 to 1. Think of how many threads we've seen with iTunes related issues vs WMP related ones on this list alone. While you can play multimedia with WMP, and I'm sure that some of that goes on in many organizations, how likely are you to see someone trying to get their WMA or WAV collection onto their home share for use in WMP? ASB (My XeeSM Profile) Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage... On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Jonathan Link <jonathan.l...@gmail.com> wrote: This argument is bunk, unless you also take the effort to remove Windows Media Player. Even that's bunk. Music files can be copied and shared without any software capable of playing them. On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Jon Harris <jk.har...@gmail.com> wrote: As someone else also mentioned there may be licensing issues with what ever gets downloaded to the company machines. That alone would make it a never to be installed software package in my book. I always used the fact that it installed a bunch of other stuff to keep it off the previous companies machines. My boss agreed his boss that that was stupid but then he ran a Mac, the rest of the office was Windows. Jon On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Mike Gill <lis...@canbyfoursquare.com> wrote: In spite of there being an MSI file inside the installer, I have never been able to get it to deploy. Appdeploy.com has a bunch of resources I believe with people getting it to work but it was no small task. Maybe there are some 3rd party deployment tools that work well. Aside from that, iTunes media is generally high bitrate. Meaning audio and video will take up a lot of space. Depending on if you backup or store your users My Docs folder on a server the space requirements may shoot up. -- Mike Gill -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Melahn [mailto:den...@advancedav.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 3:17 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: iTunes I have a manager pushing to have iTunes allowed in the workplace. We have a few audio techs who require downloading hard to find music tracks occationally but other than that we have not allowed iTunes in the enterprise (proliferation of illegally obtained music, using valuable corp bandwidth, etc). I'm still against it. Anyone have any pros/cons? 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