“Great Plains users on a few servers, EMR on another, another bunch of servers for general apps. Not possible in Terminal Server” Huh? Are you talking about this scenario?
“Your customer wants to install and then publish an application to 3 out of 5 new 2008 based Terminal Servers in their new farm and load balance that application across the 3 servers in question (but remember, they are not licensed for the application to publish it across the remaining 2 servers). Now this is a typical example of the kind of administration and application deployment that can happen every day in a Citrix environment, but there is a slight problem here. They would need to split the farm containing the 5 servers in two, because a farm in the Terminal Services 2008 sense is a group of servers that are configured identically with applications and the remaining 2 servers are not.“ I ask because in the strict sense you can put some apps on some TS servers but not others. I’m wondering at what scale it makes sense to choose XenApp vs. TS 2K8? We, for example have all of 15 licenses for Citrix (and have got by with just one server) and have been that way for over 3 years. I just kicked up to 50 CAL’s of W2K8 TS and am creating a simple TS farm of 3 servers, but your comments make me curious… Dave From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 8:15 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? I did just that, Webster. I tried to save our organization some money by using Terminal Server 2008 for our enterprise medical system. That lasted maybe a year of constant issues. Meanwhile my XenApp systems hummed along quietly. Currently I am moving the Terminal Servers XenApp systems. One thing I really like about XenApp is siloing. Great Plains users on a few servers, EMR on another, another bunch of servers for general apps. Not possible in Terminal Server. So the money I saved was burned by man hours supporting it. >>> "Webster" <carlwebs...@gmail.com> 10/29/2010 10:12 AM >>> “I’d love to hear why people would recommend Citrix over TS 2008” http://www.dabcc.com/article.aspx?id=9771 At my previous employer, we had several customers that tried moving from Presentation Server 4.5 to TS2008, gave up and moved back. IMNSHO, TS2008 just doesn’t scale well for large enterprises unless you have some very experienced people around. Webster From: David Lum [mailto:david....@nwea.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Last I checked TS licensing was far cheaper than Citrix – see if there’s a big price delta. If yes, then see if there’s any reason the cheaper solution wouldn’t work. If no big price difference do you have any in-house knowledge that knows one app better than the other? I am in the midst of standing up 2008 Terminal Servers to replace our aging Citrix Metaframe and 2008 R2 TS is very easy to set up. To add into this question, I’d love to hear why people would recommend Citrix over TS 2008. TS 2008’s application management is far better than previous Terminal Server versions. From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? It’ll be Server 2008 R2, 64-bit. From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Windows??? Do you mean 2003, 2008 or R2? If 2003 or 2008, 32-bit or 64-bit? Webster From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? Windows – the application is Tessitura (http://www.tessitura-network.org), and is used for CRM & Ticketing for arts organizations. From: Webster [mailto:carlwebs...@gmail.com] Subject: RE: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? What OS will you be hosting the application on? From: Sean Rector [mailto:sean.rec...@vaopera.org] Subject: Citrix or Windows Terminal Server? 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