On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:07 AM, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com> wrote:
>>  Note also that spec USB can't provide enough power for many (most?) 2.5" 
>> drives.
>> The double-plug USB cables are a hack that happens to work sometimes -- maybe
>> even most of the time -- but sometimes it doesn't.
>
> I've got more than 20 different USB 2.5" enclosures sitting at this desk 
> alone (some
> are no-name, others branded: WD, Seagate, Lacie), and they've worked on every
> laptop I've ever owned except the Dell D600. That includes a Seagate 12.5mm 
> 1TB
> model. I think that problem was solved years ago.

  The USB spec says devices are allowed 100 mA to start, and can
negotiate up to 500 mA.  Most double plug hacks doesn't put any
intelligence on the second plug, so it can't negotiate anything.  This
violates the spec.  It's not a problem that can that can be "solved"
within terms of the spec.[1]  I've encounter a few systems over the
years that didn't like a given enclosure.  It's fairly random -- which
makes sense, since we're treading in the margins of error outside the
spec.

  I know you've got enough experience with IT that I shouldn't have to
explain the difference between "usually works, despite spec
violations" and "spec says it should work"[2].  :-)

-- Ben

[1] I imagine an enclosure could put some minimal intelligence on the
second plug, so that it could negotiate a full 1 A combined.  Some
enclosures may even do this.  But the cheaper ones I've encountered
don't.

[2] And of course "spec says it should work" doesn't always mean
"usually works".

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