No easy road for you, mister! >>> Don Ely <don....@gmail.com> 4/8/2011 10:36 AM >>> Why are you trying to ruin my retirement?
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Jonathan Link <jonathan.l...@gmail.com>wrote: > I thought we'd disabused you of the notion that you need a [high end] SAN? > > Granted the high end ones are nice and they have their uses, but your just > looking to store files on it. Are you going to virtualize all your servers, > rely on Vmotion or some other tool to ensure high availability, or do you > need to provide data access to a large number of disparate servers? > Consider looking at some of the lower end offerings from Synology and Qnap > (heard good things), and avoid Drobo (heard not so good things) and stay > away from Buffalo (don't touch that, it's pure evil). > > This "project" has been on your dockett for over a year now, hasn't it? > Awaiting funding? The Synology and Qnap offerings are pretty affordable, > and get you into iSCSI access realm. Also, whatever happened to your > project about setting up your own storage server? With Windows Server 2008 > R2 having access to the iSCSI target software MS recently released, that > becomes an option now, too. > > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 12:55 PM, John Aldrich < > jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com> wrote: > >> Yeah.... I was keeping that in mind... Very good points to consider, too. >> :-) Mostly just going to be storing stuff that is primarily used for >> reference and things like that. At least that's how we're using our file >> server now. Very little "writing" going on, but a lot of "reading" of >> files. >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] >> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:47 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >> >> If you're using Exchange 2010 then you're still not going to be pushing >> a lot of IOPS. It could be more of an issue if you had a SQL or >> intensive ERP app etc. >> >> It isn't black and white IMO. Buy a SAN like an Equallogic and all your >> disks are in one big RAID set. Buy a dumber SAN like an MD3000i and you >> can have as few or as many RAID sets as your physical disks support, buy >> a P4000 and your nodes give you redundancy as does your RAID level, so >> you see what I mean, it isn't a one size fits all thing really. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] >> Sent: 08 April 2011 17:42 >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >> >> Well, I don't think we'll have a whole lot of IOPS, unless / until I >> bring email in-house, in which case I might just have it on it's own >> dedicated server with plenty of disk space on-board and back that up to >> the SAN. :-) >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] >> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:24 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >> >> You need to weigh up price vs. performance needs vs. risk tolerance. >> >> RAID6 is fantastic for data reliability, but if your workload is write >> intensive you're pretty screwed if you go with RAID6. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com] >> Sent: 08 April 2011 17:13 >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >> >> Would you prefer RAID6 or RAID10? Practically, what would you accept -- >> RAID 5, RAID 6, what? Just trying to think ahead for when I have a >> chance to order a SAN. >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] >> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 12:06 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >> >> Our new servers are ordered that way. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com] >> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 3:16 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >> >> IF your controller supports it, ADG (RAID6) is even better than RAID5 + >> spare, IMO. >> >> -sc >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] >> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 2:43 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >> >> I've gotten so paranoid about this kind of situation happening here that >> I have two hotspares in my servers. >> >> >> >> John Hornbuckle >> MIS Department >> Taylor County School District >> www.taylor.k12.fl.us >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] >> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 1:03 PM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: Re: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >> >> No hot spare. >> John W. Cook >> Systems Administrator >> Partnership for Strong Families >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Steven M. Caesare <scaes...@caesare.com> >> To: NT System Admin Issues <ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> >> Sent: Thu Apr 07 13:01:32 2011 >> Subject: RE: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >> >> If you don't have a hot spare then NO! >> >> If you do have a hot spare, then it should have kicked in when the >> previous drive failed, and you would currently not be seeing any >> rebuilds with the drive you already replaced... >> >> I'd recommend against it. >> >> -sc >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] >> > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 12:58 PM >> > To: NT System Admin Issues >> > Subject: Opinion on rebuilding Raid 5 >> > >> > So I have a Dell 2850 with 6 drives in raid 5 and one completely >> failed and >> > another is predicted to according to the OpenManage software. I >> replaced >> > the failed one and it's rebuilding but I was wondering if anyone has >> an >> > opinion on whether or not I can replace the suspect drive before the >> other >> > one completes it's rebuild as this is a remote office and I really >> don't want to >> > drive back out here just to swap a drive out. >> > John W. 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