Agreed, fair points. Back in the 90s they were at the top of their game, but these days, their b2b strategy is questionable. Certainly for personal use I would consider one.
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Laptop confusion Toshiba doesn't work in an enterprise environment. Build quality varies depending on the series (Tecra, Satellite etc). Warranty service varies between countries (RTB, Onsite etc). A lot of the utilities that they bundle in can't be deployed using automated methods, because they require manual intervention. Also, the actual order of installing all the utilities is a PITA. And most of the utilities are just an overhead on the machine - the functionality is already built into Windows. Worked on many accounts that have Toshibas as the platform, plus owned a lot of Toshiba tablet PCs (in the day, they were the only serious TabletPC vendor) From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:al...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2011 12:29 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Laptop confusion This is out of left field, but as someone who has owned probably every laptop known to mankind, I will say that I recently bought a Toshiba and was very, very impressed. Outstanding build quality and a bunch of very useful built-in tools. Price is certainly very competitive against the major brands. Fwiw. Alex From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 12:02 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Laptop confusion Thanks for the responses. I'd be fine with the Latitude across fleet, too, but currently the quotes are several hundred more per unit than the Lenovo T, which Dell tell me is the competing Lenovo line. Ken you have a good point about the standardization. Not that it would last long since both Dell and Lenovo seem to change docking station models with each full moon... We have so many docking stations around here that fit...nothing. CPU doesn't matter too much for quote purposes. >>> Jonathan Link <jonathan.l...@gmail.com<mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com>> >>> 4/19/2011 11:45 AM >>> I generally concur, with one exception. I would recommend staying away from Vostro's entirely. My experience with them is that they do not hold up over a three year lifespan to the same degree Latitudes do. If you do decide to mix Vostros in, I would definitely take Ken's advice and budget for early replacement. On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Ken Schaefer <k...@adopenstatic.com<mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com>> wrote: Does the CPU really matter? Are your users really CPU bound? Surely warranty support etc. are the determining factors? Over a 3 year lifecycle, if you have to wait a few hours extra for a fix per incident, then the loss of business revenue surely outweighs a few extra dollars upfront, or 1% CPU power. I would go Latitude across the fleet, so at least you have standardised peripheral, modular bay devices, docking stations etc. If you remote users come onsite, they can use the stuff you have in your offices. Plus Latitude has a longer projected lifecycle for peripheral, docking stations etc than Vostro. If you are really concerned about CAPEX, then go Vostro across the fleet and budget (worst case) to replace a year earlier. From: Tom Miller [mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org<mailto:tmil...@hnncsb.org>] Sent: Tuesday, 19 April 2011 11:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Laptop confusion Hi Folks, We are purchasing a number of laptops are part of a project here. Most of these laptops will be replacing current desktops. Some will be for our "nomadic" users who work in schools, hospitals, and so on. Up to now we've purchased ThinkPad laptops, but I'm looking around. We've been satisfied with our Dell desktops, so I'm looking at Dell laptops. My Dell rep suggested a Latitude with docking station for my staff with desks, and a Vostro for the remote users. Remote users access our systems via XenApp, so I don't need anything powerful on their end. I'm having a bit of trouble comparing these to the Lenovo units, though. I think the Vostro would be about the same as a SL510 series or around that. The Latitude would be like a T series Lenovo. I can match memory and screen size and most features, but processor core isn't always a direct match. Suggestions? Really for us, best price wins, but I want to compare apples to apples, as it were. Anyone compare these two brands? Am I off on the models here? 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