Exactly.

While it is possible for the problem to be a server-side config, it is more
likely that there is a security setting tied to the switch port, or IP
address or some protocol in use by the server.

I had a scenario where I built a new server to replace my old monitoring
server and put it into a policy group on the firewall that limited traffic
to it.  Took me a while to figure that one out, even though I was the only
person who had managed the devices in question.



*ASB *(Professional Bio <http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio>)
 *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...

 *



On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Ziots, Edward <ezi...@lifespan.org> wrote:

>  That is what I was getting at, an ACL on the router(s) that connect the B
> segment to the A segment and vice-versa.
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
>
>
> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, April 25, 2011 11:55 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: frustrating network issue on two servers
>
>
>
> Are you sure this is an OS issue and not something having to do with
> routers or switches or firewalls in between the devices?
>
>
>
> Have you considered running nMap against those two "problem" machines from
> another system on their own subnet (and even from the machines themselves)
> in order to isolate where the problem is coming from?
>
>
>
> Also, look at the routing table on the machines in question and see how it
> differs from the machines that work.  (Even if it appears to work via PING,
> it could be different)
>
>
>
> I'd do all of these *before* I bothered with a reinstall...
>
>
>
>
> *ASB *(Professional Bio <http://about.me/Andrew.S.Baker/bio>)
> *Harnessing the Advantages of Technology for the SMB market...**
> *
> * *
>
>
>
>  On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 10:53 AM, G.Waleed Kavalec <kava...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> That is exactly where I am, but I cannot find a single factor on R1 or R2
> that would account for such a rule.
>
>
>
> All firewalls are off.
>
>
>
> I've compared Services on R1 and (working) R3.
>
>
>
> Especially: what kind of access control *only* affects connections from
> another subnet?
>
>
>
>
>
> Sincerely
>
> Bald by Nightfall
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Ziots, Edward <ezi...@lifespan.org>
> wrote:
>
> That looks better,
>
>
>
> But from B1 to a different R server on the A side. Shows that the ACL might
> just be with the first R server ( you tested)
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
>
>
> *From:* G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, April 25, 2011 9:46 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: frustrating network issue on two servers
>
>
>
> Here is the nmap result from B1 to a different R server
>
>
>
>  Starting Nmap 5.51 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2011-04-25 08:42 Central
> Daylight Time
>
>
>
> Nmap scan report for 192.168.2.134
>
> Host is up (0.0092s latency).
>
> PORT     STATE  SERVICE
>
> 137/tcp  closed netbios-ns
>
> 138/tcp  closed netbios-dgm
>
> 139/tcp  open   netbios-ssn
>
> 445/tcp  open   microsoft-ds
>
> 1433/tcp open   ms-sql-s
>
>
>
> Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 0.52 seconds
>
>
>
>
>
> Doesn't this mean the routers are fine?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Ziots, Edward <ezi...@lifespan.org>
> wrote:
>
> Check your ACL’s on the router on the B side before it sends the traffic
> over to the interface on the A side.
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
>
>
> *From:* G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, April 25, 2011 9:31 AM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: frustrating network issue on two servers
>
>
>
> OK, I've had my cup of coffee and realized that '*filtered*' != 'open'
>
>
>
> Now I have to figure out why these ports are filtered, but only across the
> subnet.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 8:21 AM, G.Waleed Kavalec <kava...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> OK, success in nmap - still same symptoms in SQL and Browse
>
>
>
>  NMAP -sS -P0 -p 137,138,139,445,1433 192.168.2.132
>
>
>
> Starting Nmap 5.51 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2011-04-25 08:16 Central
> Daylight Time
>
>
>
> Nmap scan report for 192.168.2.132
>
> Host is up.
>
> PORT     STATE    SERVICE
>
> 137/tcp  filtered netbios-ns
>
> 138/tcp  filtered netbios-dgm
>
> 139/tcp  filtered netbios-ssn
>
> 445/tcp  filtered microsoft-ds
>
> 1433/tcp filtered ms-sql-s
>
>
>
> Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 3.50 seconds
>
>
>
>
>
> Wonderful!  NMAP assures me that nothing is wrong.  But the patient is
> still dead.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Ziots, Edward <ezi...@lifespan.org>
> wrote:
>
> C:\windows\system32>nmap -sS -P0 -p 137,138,139,445,1433 172.18.2.41
>
>
>
> Starting Nmap 5.51 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2011-04-24 17:54 Eastern
> Daylight Time
>
>
>
> Nmap scan report for riavayadsp1.lsmaster.lifespan.org (172.18.2.41)
>
> Host is up.
>
> PORT     STATE    SERVICE
>
> 137/tcp  filtered netbios-ns
>
> 138/tcp  filtered netbios-dgm
>
> 139/tcp  filtered netbios-ssn
>
> 445/tcp  filtered microsoft-ds
>
> 1433/tcp filtered ms-sql-s
>
>
>
> Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 9.81 seconds
>
>
>
> Did the same command against one of my systems, with Windows 7 and NMAP
> 5.5.1 and worked fine.
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
>
>
> *From:* G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 24, 2011 5:37 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: frustrating network issue on two servers
>
>
>
> The exact command I used was
>
>
>
>
>
> Nmap –sS –P0 –p 137,138,139,445,1433  192.168.2.132
>
>
>
> This gave back the error I posted.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Ziots, Edward <ezi...@lifespan.org>
> wrote:
>
> I also scanned systems with Nmap 5.51 and the commands I gave earlier
> worked fine.
>
>
>
> Without seeing the response from Nmap I can’t tell you if a router acl, or
> firewall setting, is the culprit.
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward E. Ziots
>
> CISSP, Network +, Security +
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> Email:ezi...@lifespan.org
>
> Cell:401-639-3505
>
>
>
> *From:* G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 24, 2011 4:06 PM
>
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: frustrating network issue on two servers
>
>
>
> Ipsec policy agent is running, no policies defined.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Crawford, Scott <crawfo...@evangel.edu>
> wrote:
>
> ipsec service running? any policies defined?
>
>
>
> Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint
>
>
>     ------------------------------
>
> On Apr 24, 2011 2:02 PM, G.Waleed Kavalec <kava...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> All firewalls off.
>
>
>
> Once again, browse and SQL work fine from the same subnet/site.
>
>
>
> And ping from both, both directions.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Ben N <bennordlan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Any firewalls ? Either windwows or something else in between. Make sure
> ports are open. Try telnet to port 445 to be sure.
>
> On Apr 24, 2011 10:59 AM, "G.Waleed Kavalec" <kava...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Nope. R1 or R1.ourdomain.local same symptoms.
> >
> > Ping yes - from either subnet.
> >
> > Browse no, SQL no - but ONLY fails from subnet B.
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Crawford, Scott <crawfo...@evangel.edu
> >wrote:
> >
> >> does it matter if you use the fqdn?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >> On Apr 23, 2011 11:16 PM, G.Waleed Kavalec <kava...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks Tom, I'll give that a shot in the morning.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Tom Miller <tmil...@hnncsb.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Check the IP properties of the servers in question. I had an issue
> >>> with week where one of my 2008 R2 servers couldn't ping, get to
> anything. I
> >>> went into the properties of IPv4, everthing looked good, then checked
> the
> >>> box to "verify" upon exit. Then all was well. Weird. May not apply,
> just
> >>> a suggestion.
> >>>
> >>> You can always uninstall/reinstall the file server role (can't remember
> >>> the exact name of the role off-hand).
> >>>
> >>> >>> "G.Waleed Kavalec" 04/23/11 8:43 PM >>>
> >>> Two sites, R and B. Same domain, different subnets.
> >>>
> >>> All R servers can see all B servers
> >>> All B servers can see all R servers - EXCEPT TWO
> >>>
> >>> R1 and R2 see all B servers, browse folders etc.
> >>>
> >>> B servers can PING R1 and R2 just fine; R1 and R2 can PING B
> >>> servers just fine.
> >>>
> >>> But B cannot browse R1 or R2 folders for nothing.
> >>>
> >>> Diagnose gives "file and print sharing resource R1 is online but isn't
> >>> responding to connection attempts"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Other R servers can browse R1 and R2 no problem.
> >>> Other R servers can connect to R1 and R2 sql instances just fine.
> >>>
> >>> B servers can can browse other R servers no problem.
> >>> B servers can can connect to other R servers sql instances just fine.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Firewalls OFF, route statements confirmed (see: ping)
> >>>
> >>> All machines 2008 R2 up-to-date on patches.
> >>>
> >>> I **think** I have verified all necessary services are up.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Arrrrggh !
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> __________________
> >>> Gregory Waleed Kavalec
>
>
>

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