On Sat, Mar 9, 2024 at 2:03 AM Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benja...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 at 00:44, Charles R Harris <charlesr.har...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > About a month from now.
>
> What will happen about a month from now? It might seem obvious to you
> but I can interpret this in different ways.
>
> To be clear numpy 2.0 is expected to be released in full to the public
> in about one month's time from today?
>

Let me give the optimistic and pessimistic timelines. Optimistic:

- 2.0.0b1 later today
- 2.0.0rc1 (ABI stable) in 7-10 days
- 2.0.0 final release in 1 month

Pessimistic:

- 2.0.0b1 within a few days
- 2.0.0rc1 (ABI stable) in 2 weeks
- 2.0.0rc2 in 4 weeks
- 2.0.0rc3 in 6 weeks
- 2.0.0 final release in 8 weeks

For projects which have nontrivial usage of the NumPy API (and especially
if they also use the C API), I'd recommend:
1. Check whether things work with 2.0.0b1, ideally asap so if there is
anything we missed we can catch it before rc1. Perhaps do a pre-release of
your own package
2. Do a final release after 2.0.0rc1 - ideally as soon as possible after,
and definitely before the final 2.0.0 release

For (2), note that there are a ton of packages that do not have correct
upper bounds, so if you haven't done your own new release that is
compatible with both 2.0.0 and 1.26.x *before* 2.0.0 comes out, the users
of your project are likely to have a hard time.

Cheers,
Ralf
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