> 
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 12:12 AM, Travis Oliphant <tra...@continuum.io> wrote:
> I'm wondering about using one of these commercial issue tracking plans for 
> NumPy and would like thoughts and comments.    Both of these plans allow Open 
> Source projects to have unlimited plans for free.   
> 
> Free usage of a tool that's itself not open source is not all that different 
> from using Github, so no objections from me.
>  
> YouTrack from JetBrains: 
> 
> http://www.jetbrains.com/youtrack/features/issue_tracking.html
> 
> This looks promising. It seems to have good Github integration, and I checked 
> that you can easily export all your issues (so no lock-in). It's a company 
> that isn't going anywhere (I hope), and they do a very nice job with PyCharm.

I do like the team behind JetBrains.   And I've seen and heard good things 
about TeamCity.   Thanks for reminding me about the build-bot situation.  That 
is one thing I would like to address sooner rather than later as well. 

Thanks,

-Travis



>  
> JIRA: 
> 
> http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/overview/tour/code-integration
> 
> Haven't looked into this one in much detail. I happen to have a dislike for 
> Confluence (their wiki system), so someone else can say some nice things 
> about JIRA.
> 
> Haven't tried either tracker though. Anyone with actual experience?
>  
> What Mark Wiebe said about making it easy to "manage the issues" quickly and 
> what Eric said about making sure there are interfaces with dense information 
> content really struck chords with me.  I have seen a lot of time wasted on 
> issue management with Trac --- time that could be better spent on NumPy.    
> I'd like to make issue management efficient --- even if it means a system 
> separate from GitHub. 
> 
> Issue management is a very important part of the open-source process.  
> 
> While we're at it, our buildbot situation is much worse than our issue 
> tracker situation. This also looks good (and free): 
> http://www.jetbrains.com/teamcity/
> 
> Ralf  
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