On 2015/09/04 10:53 AM, Matthew Brett wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 2:33 AM, Matthew Brett <matthew.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Chris Barker <chris.bar...@noaa.gov> wrote:
>>> 1) I very much agree that governance can make or break a project. However,
>>> the actual governance approach often ends up making less difference than the
>>> people involved.
>>>
>>> 2) While the FreeBSD and XFree examples do point to some real problems with
>>> the "core" model it seems that there are many other projects that are using
>>> it quite successfully.
>
> I was just rereading the complaints about the 'core' structure from
> high-level NetBSD project leaders:
>
> "[the "core" and "board of directors"] teams are dysfunctional because
> they do not provide leadership: all they do is act reactively to
> requests from users and/or to resolve internal disputes. In other
> words: there is no initiative nor vision emerging from these teams
> (and, for that matter, from anybody)." [1]
>
> "There is no high-level direction; if you ask "what about the problems
> with threads" or "will there be a flash-friendly file system", the
> best you'll get is "we'd love to have both" -- but no work is done to
> recruit people to code these things, or encourage existing developers
> to work on them." [2]


This is consistent with Chris's first point.

>
> I imagine we will have to reconcile ourselves to similar problems, if
> we adopt the same structures.

Do you have suggestions as to who would make a good numpy president or 
BDFL and potentially has the time and inclination to do it, or how to 
identify and recruit such a person?

Eric

>
> Cheers,
>
> Matthew
>
> [1] 
> http://julipedia.meroh.net/2013/06/self-interview-after-leaving-netbsd.html
> [2] http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/2006/08/30/0016.html
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