got a gun,
fact I've got two,
that's okay man cause I love god,
glorified version of a pellet gun,
fell so manly,
when armed... (Pearl Jam)
Arie Gilbert
North Babylon, NY
WWW.Powerbirder.blogspot.com
WWW.qcbirdclub.org
On 3/19/2014 6:50 AM, Patricia Aitken
wrote:
According to their facebook page, they also had a Squirrel
Skramble, to see who could shoot the most squirrels. It seems
like stopping these hunts would have to be done by changing the
law, as competitive hunting is part of their club's culture.
Best,
Pat
I totally agree with Rich. It was a posthaste attempt to
justify the unjustifyable.
To proceed in trying to stop this we need to determine if
the ability to shoot crows is rooted in NY En Con Law or if
it stems from federal law.......
John Turner
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard
Date: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 12:58 pm
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot scheduled in Greene
County
To: Stella Miller
Cc: Rick & Linda Kedenburg ,
Larry Federman , Jonathan
Perez , Lynne Hertzog ,
Cesar Castillo , NYSBIRDS-L
, Jim Osterlund
> My guess is that nobody will consume
any American Crow, Fish
> Crow, or Raven unless one or two do
so to "justify" the killing
> now that it's been put out there.
Nobody should believe that was
> their original intention. It was just
to shoot to wound or kill -
> plain and simple. I've seen crippled
crows impaired on trees or
> flopping on ice to lure more into
range. This is not
> subsistence hunting - it's wonton
killing.
>
> Rich
>
> Sent from my wireless tin can
>
> > On Mar 18, 2014, at 11:21,
Stella Miller
> wrote:
> >
> > Is he really confirming that
they will be eating these birds?
> Sounds as though he is putting it
out there that they CAN be
> eaten, not necessarily that they
will be sitting down to a feast
> of Crow Pot Pie.
> >
> > Stella
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Conservation is sometimes
perceived as stopping everything
> cold, as holding whooping cranes in
higher esteem than people.
> It is up to science to spread the
understanding that the choice
> is not between wild places or
people, it is between a rich or an
> impoverished existence for Man."
Thomas Lovejoy
> > From: Rick & Linda
Kedenburg
> > To: Larry Federman
> > Cc: Jonathan Perez ;
Richard
> ;
Lynne Hertzog
> ;
Cesar Castillo ;
> NYSBIRDS-L ;
Jim Osterlund
>
> > Sent: Tuesday,
March 18, 2014 10:07 AM
> > Subject: Re:
[nysbirds-l] Crow Shoot
scheduled in Greene
County
> >
> > Dear Larry and
others,
> > I wrote to the
club yesterday and
received the following
> answer. (See Below)
Judging from the way
it's worded I don't
> think they care
what any of us think.
It's preposterous that
> they are
"gathering" the crows to
eat.
> >
> > Approaching
our government
representatives is a
good way to go
> but perhaps some
press coverage of this
event my make them think
> twice. I don't know
any journalists in that
area that would take
> up the story.
Anyone else have any
contacts along these
lines.
> >
> > Best Rick
> >
> > From: r...@hvc.rr.com
> > Subject: Re:
Crow Shoot
> > Date: March
17, 2014 10:56:54 PM EDT
> > To: rickkedenb...@optonline.net
> > Rick,
> > Thank you for
your input. Your opinion
of our event is
> expected. We
applaud your respect for
nature and the crow. The
> crow is meaningful.
We believe in utilizing
the animal for all
> its worth. It
sounds as if you do not
realize that crow can
and
> has been consumed
for centuries. I'm sure
as anecdotal evidence
> you would recall "4
and 20 blackbirds baked
in a pie".
> > You may gather
and eat different
things, however that
does not
> negatively define
us as sportsmen.
> > RVW Gun Club
> > Sent from my
iPhone
> >
> > On Mar 17,
2014, at 6:40 PM, Rick
Kedenburg
>
wrote:
> >
> > Dear RVW
Club.
> > As a youth I
was a duck and deer
hunter on eastern LI.
I know
> you have every
right to conduct this
shoot. It is perfectly
> legal for this to
happen under the rules
of the NYS-DEC.
> >
> > However I am
still outraged by
this. Crows are one of
the most
> intelligent
creatures we share the
Earth with. They have
been
> documented to
fashion and use tools.
They are highly social
and
> live in family
groups. My fascination
with them led me to
love
> and appreciate
nature long ago.
> >
> > I hope you
can understand that
this will not be good
for the
> reputation of
your club or for any
responsible hunters.
> >
> > Rick
Kedenburg
> > rickkedenb...@optonline.net
> >
> >> On Mar
18, 2014, at 9:26 AM,
Larry Federman wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes,
this is a State issue.
Our State Senator is
Cecilia
> Tkaczyk and our
Assembly member is
Pete Lopez. Our US
> congressman is
Chris Gibson. I will
be reaching out to all
of
> their offices.
> >>
> >> But, as
we all know, ‘legally’
the club has a right
to do this.
> >>
> >> And
their Facebook page is
still up -
> https://www.facebook.com/events/258725434301388/>>
> >> Larry
Federman
> >>
President, Northern
Catskills Audubon
> >
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