Hope we aren't comparing a bird's life to a human life. On Thursday, January 8, 2015, Linda Orkin <wingmagi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It doesn't hurt to help beings in trouble if it is possible to do. > Wouldn't you want the same done for you? > > Linda Orkin > Ithaca, NY > > On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Will Raup <hoaryredp...@hotmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hoaryredp...@hotmail.com');>> wrote: > >> >> Why should we get involved at all? They are vagrants, moved out of their >> normal range for whatever reason. They will either survive and return >> home, or they won't. That's the way nature works. I think we should stand >> back and let nature take its course and not get directly involved. >> >> Will Raup >> Glenmont, NY >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 10:25:22 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances? >> From: peter.co...@gmail.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','peter.co...@gmail.com');> >> To: rc...@nyc.rr.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rc...@nyc.rr.com');> >> CC: hdmcguinn...@gmail.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','hdmcguinn...@gmail.com');>; >> orhanbir...@gmail.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','orhanbir...@gmail.com');>; >> NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu');> >> >> >> Good discussion, >> >> Here is a Dusky-capped Flycatcher eating fruit/vegetables in the warm >> climate of El Salvador, but I also suspect the 2 kingbirds could use some >> good bugs in this weather. >> >> Perhaps it would be good too make an arrangement with a rehabber in case >> of emergency. Birds get sick fast. >> >> From one who lived with birds, Peter >> >> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Rick <rc...@nyc.rr.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rc...@nyc.rr.com');>> wrote: >> >> True, and don’t forget the somewhat similar overwinter survival of the >> Rufous Hummingbird outside the American Museum of Natural History a few >> years back; the last posting I’m aware of for that bird was 3/11/2012. >> >> >> >> 2011-12 was a mild winter, admittedly, but hummers are hardly a model of >> cold tolerance (they lack down feathers, lose heat rapidly, and need to go >> into torpor overnight even in comparatively mild conditions to conserve >> energy). >> >> >> >> In any case, don’t sell birds short, provided they have adequate >> good-quality food. (The question in my mind, aside from availability of >> small fruits and such, is whether or not they are an adequate substitute >> for higher-quality insect protein in severe cold, versus in milder >> traditional overwintering sites.) >> >> >> >> Rick >> >> >> >> *From:* bounce-118683374-3714...@list.cornell.edu >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bounce-118683374-3714...@list.cornell.edu');> >> [mailto:bounce-118683374-3714...@list.cornell.edu >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bounce-118683374-3714...@list.cornell.edu');>] >> *On Behalf Of *Hugh McGuinness >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 08, 2015 7:18 AM >> *To:* Orhan Birol >> *Cc:* NYSBIRDS-L >> *Subject:* Re: [nysbirds-l] Cassins/Couches survival chances? >> >> >> >> My memory of Tyrannus biology is that all members of the genus become >> mostly or partly frugivorous during winter, and simply supplement their >> diet with insects when available. So, their survival in NYC may depend more >> on the availability of small fruits, for which they are competing with the >> many Robins and Starlings, than on the availability of insects. >> >> Hugh >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 10:40 PM, Orhan Birol <orhanbir...@gmail.com >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','orhanbir...@gmail.com');>> wrote: >> >> On Sunday I observed both. >> >> The Cassins was flycatching nonstop for the 10 minutes I was there. >> >> I think the row of low evergreens(boxwood?) on the west side of the >> community gardens and plenty of shelter in the gardens, may protect it from >> the cold. >> >> The Couches also has enough shelter in enclosed gardens, structures etc. >> The 10 minutes I was there, it called nonstop but never fed. >> >> I have no idea if the insects both feed on will survive tonight. >> >> Any thoughts? >> >> Orhan Birol >> >> Shelter Island >> >> -- >> >> *NYSbirds-L List Info:* >> >> Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME> >> >> Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES> >> >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >> <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> >> >> *Archives:* >> >> The Mail Archive >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l%40cornell.edu/maillist.html> >> >> Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L> >> >> BirdingOnThe.Net <http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html> >> >> *Please submit your observations to **eBird* >> <http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>*!* >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Hugh McGuinness >> Washington, D.C. >> >> -- >> >> *NYSbirds-L List Info:* >> >> Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME> >> >> Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES> >> >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >> <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> >> >> *Archives:* >> >> The Mail Archive >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l%40cornell.edu/maillist.html> >> >> Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L> >> >> BirdingOnThe.Net <http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html> >> >> *Please submit your observations to **eBird* >> <http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>*!* >> >> -- >> -- >> *NYSbirds-L List Info:* >> Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME> >> Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES> >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >> <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> >> *Archives:* >> The Mail Archive >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l%40cornell.edu/maillist.html> >> Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L> >> BirdingOnThe.Net <http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html> >> *Please submit your observations to **eBird* >> <http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>*!* >> -- >> >> >> >> >> -- >> petercolenphotography.com >> -- >> *NYSbirds-L List Info:* >> Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME> >> Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES> >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >> <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> >> *Archives:* >> The Mail Archive >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l%40cornell.edu/maillist.html> >> Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L> >> BirdingOnThe.Net <http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html> >> *Please submit your observations to **eBird* >> <http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>*!* >> -- >> -- >> *NYSbirds-L List Info:* >> Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME> >> Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES> >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >> <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> >> *Archives:* >> The Mail Archive >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> >> Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L> >> BirdingOnThe.Net <http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html> >> *Please submit your observations to **eBird* >> <http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>*!* >> -- >> > > > > -- > Veganism is simply the acknowledgment that a replaceable and fleeting > pleasure isn't more valuable than someone's life and liberty. > ~ Unknown > > If you permit > this evil, what is the good > of the good of your life? 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