Sorry, I didn't mean that for the list. I'm not surprised to hear there's already a "photons-to-eye" rule for ABA.
-----Original Message----- From: bounce-125799748-3714...@list.cornell.edu <bounce-125799748-3714...@list.cornell.edu> On Behalf Of Robert Lewis Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2021 9:33 AM To: gle...@verizon.net; nysbirds-l@cornell.edu; rcech <rc...@nyc.rr.com> Cc: epey...@nyc.rr.com Subject: Re: Re:[nysbirds-l] Cold Spring Harbor Spoonbill Stuff This question was asked and answered many years ago. You can't count a bird for any life list that you see on television. It's the same with today's video cams. It's a reconstructed image via pixels. There is a continuous progression: the lens in your eye -> eye glasses -> lenses in binocular or telescope. Bob Lewis On Wednesday, July 28, 2021, 11:46:47 PM EDT, rcech <rc...@nyc.rr.com> wrote: Depends on what you mean by real. In last Harry Potter epidode Harry is in a heaven-like place discussing his last Voldermort encounter with Dumbledor. "Professor," Harry asked, "Is this all real or is it just in my head?" "Of course it's all in your head, dear boy, but that doesn't mean it's not real." I suppose ABA needs rules on this sort of thing. When is a mental image recordable - always, or is this source-dependent? They have rules for everything else, after all. I'd recommend doing whatever you want, actually. It's your life list, after all. Just saying... Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device -------- Original message -------- From: gle...@verizon.net Date: 7/28/21 11:10 PM (GMT-05:00) To: NYSbirds-L@cornell.edu Subject: Re:[nysbirds-l] Cold Spring Harbor Spoonbill Stuff Steve Walter’s spoonbill post got me thinking. Occasionally, when I’m bored at work, I’ll turn on the live East Hampton Beach Cam just to see what I can see. Surf, weather, birds, etc. I’ve been able to identify things like Barn Swallow, Sanderling, even LBB Gull. Would these count for Suffolk? With binoculars, light is bent through the lens arrangement to focus on your retinas. With the webcam, light is focused onto a CMOS chip, converted to zeros and ones, beamed to a satellite, beamed back to my computer, and then focused on my retinas. Same thing, right? The time difference between the two is negligible. I know, I know, it’s not the same. But it is “live” in the sense of time, and very real. (Not like that great Tom Brady video this week of him playing catch with a football passing machine). What if I happen to see a Yellow-nosed Albatross cruise across my monitor one day? Can I count it and, better yet, should I even report it….. The problems of the modern age. -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds ABA Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
