I looked into it a little more, and one problem is that even though I’m willing to buy a permit, there is no plan nor projected date for when they will start selling the 2022 permit, even though the permit season starts February 1. The only people who can park legally in the meantime are existing 2021 permit holders. It seems unjust that one can only park with a valid permit, which is not available for purchase at this time. Dawn
Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 3, 2022, at 6:57 PM, Jennifer Wilson-Pines <jwpi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I know that there is a discussion with State parks to create a birders > permit, perhaps that can also be proposed if they don't want to have general > public using limited parking > > Jennifer > >> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 6:12 PM Stanley Greenberg <greenbergph...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> This is part of Gateway National Recreation Area, it should be accessible to >> all. It's not like there's a bus that goes there either. I bike there >> sometimes but I realize that's not an option for everyone. I know some >> birding groups are working on this but it never hurts to write to Gateway >> management and the local Congressperson, Gergory Meeks. It's absurd that >> people who take (fish) are given a higher priority than people who watch >> (birds). >> >> >>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 5:34 PM Trachlar <trach...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Or don’t bird where certain folks don’t want certain other folks and my >>> guess is it’s not the birders they don’t want (primarily). >>> >>> L. Trachtenberg >>> Ossining NY >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 5:27 PM, Anne Lazarus <amlazaru...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>> >>>> Gordon just got back to me. Yes, they changed the rules this year, and you >>>> need the permit. Audubon, Linnaean and other groups are fighting this >>>> unjust regulation. Gordon doubts the new rule can be changed this season. >>>> It also applies to the fisherman`s lot at the hotel area, part of Fort >>>> Tilden. If there is any action to be taken, we will know about it from the >>>> organizations representing us. I know. It is not right. It is also about >>>> money. The fishermen they say are complaining they have no parking space. >>>> From my experience that is not true. There are always lots of empty spots. >>>> I was planning to go, but we cannot. >>>> >>>> Maybe one member of the group can drop the others off and then if another >>>> driver in the car. The original driver comes back, and the second driver >>>> gives the first driver a little time on the beach. The rest can go back to >>>> the main area, and then later pick up the original driver., complicated, >>>> but possible, Bird different areas and take turns. >>>> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 5:14 PM Deborah Shapiro <dsni...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Where is there parking for handicapped hang tags? >>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 5:04 PM, Robert O'Neill <rjoneill...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Parking there is legal only with a fisherman’s permit. Without the >>>>>> permit you can be towed. >>>>>> Bob O’Neill >>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 3:52 PM Anne Lazarus <amlazaru...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> I will ask Gordon Lam. Probably not a problem >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > On Feb 3, 2022, at 1:55 PM, Dawn Hannay <dawn...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Can anyone tell me what the situation is now for parking at Breezy >>>>>>> > Point? We used to park at the fishermen’s lot which was legal in >>>>>>> > winter, but I seem to remember some change in that policy. >>>>>>> > Thank you, >>>>>>> > Dawn Hannay >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > NYSbirds-L List Info: >>>>>>> > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm >>>>>>> > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm >>>>>>> > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > ARCHIVES: >>>>>>> > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >>>>>>> > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L >>>>>>> > 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Please submit your observations to eBird: >>>>>>> > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NYSbirds-L List Info: >>>>>>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm >>>>>>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm >>>>>>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ARCHIVES: >>>>>>> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html >>>>>>> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L >>>>>>> 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please submit your observations to eBird: >>>>>>> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> NYSbirds-L List Info: >>>>>> Welcome and Basics >>>>>> Rules and Information >>>>>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >>>>>> Archives: >>>>>> The Mail Archive >>>>>> Surfbirds >>>>>> ABA >>>>>> Please submit your observations to eBird! >>>>>> -- >>>> >>>> -- >>>> NYSbirds-L List Info: >>>> Welcome and Basics >>>> Rules and Information >>>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >>>> Archives: >>>> The Mail Archive >>>> Surfbirds >>>> ABA >>>> Please submit your observations to eBird! >>>> -- >>> >>> -- >>> NYSbirds-L List Info: >>> Welcome and Basics >>> Rules and Information >>> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >>> Archives: >>> The Mail Archive >>> Surfbirds >>> ABA >>> Please submit your observations to eBird! >>> -- >> >> -- >> NYSbirds-L List Info: >> Welcome and Basics >> Rules and Information >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >> Archives: >> The Mail Archive >> Surfbirds >> ABA >> Please submit your observations to eBird! >> -- > > > -- > Jennifer Wilson-Pines -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
