Jack, it’s a special fishing access permit issued by Gateway National 
Recreation Area that’s required. 
Dawn



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> On Feb 3, 2022, at 9:22 PM, Jack Rothman <jacro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I don’t know what kind of fishing permit is needed for the area you are 
> discussing. I purchased a NYS Resident Fishing Permit for $5, senior rate. It 
> is good for a year. I purchased it online last May and printed it out at 
> home. It came with a parking permit. 
> The process was quite simple. It was purchased from NYSDEC. I also purchased 
> a NYC Water Supply Lands Access Permit from NYCDEP.
> 
> Jack Rothman
> 
> 
>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 8:46 PM, Anne Lazarus <amlazaru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> We should support Audubon, Linnaean etc in their process to change the 
>> permit parameters. It is not all that easy to buy a fishing permit,  so I 
>> have been told. I had considered buying one. I would like to know how our 
>> supportive organizations are working on this problem. We do pay taxes. I 
>> live in Manhattan. Some of us are nervous to ride bicycles in the street 
>> with all the traffic. I am told we need to wait until April for the new 
>> permit process. I am glad the issue is being brought to a head.
>> 
>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 8:23 PM Ardith Bondi <ard...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> But, isn’t the permit for fishermen only, or is there a permit for birders?
>>> 
>>> Ardith
>>> NYC
>>> www.ardithbondi.com
>>> 
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>>>>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 7:35 PM, Dawn Hannay <dawn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> I looked into it a little more, and one problem is that even though I’m 
>>>> willing to buy a permit, there is no plan nor projected date for when they 
>>>> will start selling the 2022 permit, even though the permit season starts 
>>>> February 1. The only people who can park legally in the meantime are 
>>>> existing 2021 permit holders. It seems unjust that one can only park with 
>>>> a valid permit, which is not available for purchase at this time. 
>>>> Dawn
>>>> 
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>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 6:57 PM, Jennifer Wilson-Pines <jwpi...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know that there is a discussion with State parks to create a birders 
>>>>> permit, perhaps that can also be proposed if they don't want to have 
>>>>> general public using limited parking
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jennifer
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 6:12 PM Stanley Greenberg 
>>>>>> <greenbergph...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> This is part of Gateway National Recreation Area, it should be 
>>>>>> accessible to all. It's not like there's a bus that goes there either. I 
>>>>>> bike there sometimes but I realize that's not an option for everyone. I 
>>>>>> know some birding groups are working on this but it never hurts to write 
>>>>>> to Gateway management and the local Congressperson, Gergory Meeks. It's 
>>>>>> absurd that people who take (fish) are given a higher priority than 
>>>>>> people who watch (birds).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 5:34 PM Trachlar <trach...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Or don’t bird where certain folks don’t want certain other folks and my 
>>>>>>> guess is it’s not the birders they don’t want (primarily).  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> L. Trachtenberg 
>>>>>>> Ossining NY 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 5:27 PM, Anne Lazarus <amlazaru...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Gordon just got back to me. Yes, they changed the rules this year, and 
>>>>>>>> you need the permit. Audubon, Linnaean and other groups are fighting 
>>>>>>>> this unjust regulation.  Gordon doubts the new rule can be changed 
>>>>>>>> this season. It also applies to the fisherman`s lot at the hotel area, 
>>>>>>>> part of Fort Tilden. If there is any action to be taken, we will know 
>>>>>>>> about it from the organizations representing us. I know. It is not 
>>>>>>>> right. It is also about money. The fishermen they say are complaining 
>>>>>>>> they have no parking space. From my experience that is not true. There 
>>>>>>>> are always lots of empty spots. I was planning to go, but we cannot.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Maybe one member of the group can drop the others off and then if 
>>>>>>>> another driver in the car. The original driver comes back, and the 
>>>>>>>> second driver gives the first driver a little time on the beach. The 
>>>>>>>> rest can go back to the main area, and then later pick up the original 
>>>>>>>> driver., complicated, but possible, Bird different areas and take 
>>>>>>>> turns.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 5:14 PM Deborah Shapiro <dsni...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Where is there parking for handicapped hang tags?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 5:04 PM, Robert O'Neill <rjoneill...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Parking there is legal only with a fisherman’s permit. Without the 
>>>>>>>>>> permit you can be towed. 
>>>>>>>>>> Bob O’Neill 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 3:52 PM Anne Lazarus <amlazaru...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I will ask Gordon Lam. Probably not a problem
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> > On Feb 3, 2022, at 1:55 PM, Dawn Hannay <dawn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > 
>>>>>>>>>>> > Can anyone tell me what the situation is now for parking at 
>>>>>>>>>>> > Breezy Point? We used to park at the fishermen’s lot which was 
>>>>>>>>>>> > legal in winter, but I seem to remember some change in that 
>>>>>>>>>>> > policy. 
>>>>>>>>>>> > Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>> > Dawn Hannay
>>>>>>>>>>> > 
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