Hi Joshua,

You can try Skinner  lane (sod farms) for migrating shorebirds in September. 
The area that has been closed to birders in the one between R12 and the bridge 
that cross the river. There are other “private roads” in the area of Pine 
Island and Florida where birding is “tolerated” but don’t drive into the fields 
where you find people working the agricultural fields.

Good luck,

Felipe

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> On Aug 23, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Joshua Malbin <joshuamal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Is there anyplace to find out where in the area it is acceptable to bird, 
> where it is not, where you need to ask permission and whom you need to ask, 
> etc.?
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:28 PM Phil Jeffrey <phil.jeff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The original poster auto-blocks replies, so I'll post on here
>> 
>> The simplest idea - and something that clearly should have been done a while 
>> back - is to change the name of the hotspot to append either "private" or 
>> "closed to birders"
>> 
>> Phil Heffrey
>> 
>>> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 9:24 AM AJIT ANTONY <aiant...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> To those birders from outside Orange County New York who bird in Orange 
>>> County, NY.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Please note that Sunflower Valley Farm
>>> 
>>> 
>>> in Pine Island New York has been out of bounds to birders for the past 3 
>>> years or more. The owner has made it clear to a member of our club he knows 
>>> that he does not want birders on his property, and we the members of the E 
>>> A Mearns Club respect his wishes.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> However there was a message on the eBird RBA for Orange County New York:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Upland Sandpiper (Bartramia longicauda) (1)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Reported Aug 18, 2020 10:00 by Anonymous eBirder
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Sunflower Valley Farm, Orange, New York
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Map: 
>>> http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=p&z=13&q=41.3354014,-74.4864158&ll=41.3354014,-74.4864158
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S72581069
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Media: 2 Photos
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Comments: "Was wading in a large puddle near the corn and sunflower 
>>> fields with a Killdeer.  I am not familiar with sandpipers but ID's it from 
>>> a photo on the NYS DEC web site.  Photo attached."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This birder seems unaware of the prohibition on entering the property. I 
>>> don't believe there is a sign at either end prohibiting birding, so I don't 
>>> blame Anonymous Birder (Btw it was not an Upland Sandpiper).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The farm is now open for sunflower picking and a sunflower maze with a fee 
>>> of $5 pp, and to photographers for a fee of $30.00 an hour.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://www.sunflowervalleyfarm.com/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> For those who don't know the location of Sunflower Valley Farm.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If you're go up Skinner's Lane (off CR 6 - Pulaski Highway) and continue on 
>>> to Skinners Tract to its end and turn left on Iris Road along the Wallkill 
>>> River, at the end of this road there is a bridge on your right. The 
>>> property beyond that with a dirt road which continues to CR 12 - Lower Road 
>>> where the large silos are, is the property in question.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Liberty Lane which goes north on the opposite side of Oil City Road from 
>>> the parking lot at Wallkill River NWR is also private property and closed 
>>> to birders.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Please respect the owners' wishes. If birders are seen on these properties, 
>>> the owners may think it that members of the local Mearns Bird Club are the 
>>> ones trespassing, i.e. we will get the blame for you!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Please refer to the ABA Code of Birding Ethics which prohibits trespassing 
>>> on private property.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://www.aba.org/aba-code-of-birding-ethics/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ajit I Antony MD
>>> 
>>> 
>>> E A Mearns Bird Club
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Orange County, New York
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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