Thanks. I wasn’t planning to try. It’s a big area around Pine Island, though, with lots of fields to bird, and I was just asking where else it *is* acceptable to go. I don’t want to create friction for local birders, and I am sure others feel the same. Pointers like Felipe’s about what is and isn’t okay are valuable to visitors and help us keep things friendly for locals. It would be nice if those guidelines were available someplace.
On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 6:13 PM AJIT ANTONY <[email protected]> wrote: > You cannot get permission to bird either in Sunflower Valley Farm or > Liberty Lane. > Ajit I Antony, MD > Cornwall On Hudson > ETA Mearns Bird Club > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Joshua Malbin > > > Sent: Aug 23, 2020 10:41 AM > > > To: Phil Jeffrey > > > Cc: "& [NYSBIRDS]" > > > Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Sunflower Valley Farm and Liberty Lane in Pine > Island, NY are closed to birders. > > > > > > Is there anyplace to find out where in the area it is acceptable to bird, > where it is not, where you need to ask permission and whom you need to ask, > etc.? > > On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 3:28 PM Phil Jeffrey <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> The original poster auto-blocks replies, so I'll post on here >> >> The simplest idea - and something that clearly should have been done a >> while back - is to change the name of the hotspot to append either >> "private" or "closed to birders" >> >> Phil Heffrey >> >> On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 9:24 AM AJIT ANTONY <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> To those birders from outside Orange County New York who bird in Orange >>> County, NY. >>> >>> >>> Please note that Sunflower Valley Farm >>> >>> >>> in Pine Island New York has been out of bounds to birders for the past 3 >>> years or more. The owner has made it clear to a member of our club he knows >>> that he does not want birders on his property, and we the members of the E >>> A Mearns Club respect his wishes. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> However there was a message on the eBird RBA for Orange County New York: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Upland Sandpiper (Bartramia longicauda) (1) >>> >>> >>> - Reported Aug 18, 2020 10:00 by Anonymous eBirder >>> >>> >>> - Sunflower Valley Farm, Orange, New York >>> >>> >>> - Map: >>> http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=p&z=13&q=41.3354014,-74.4864158&ll=41.3354014,-74.4864158 >>> >>> >>> - Checklist: https://ebird.org/checklist/S72581069 >>> >>> >>> - Media: 2 Photos >>> >>> >>> - Comments: "Was wading in a large puddle near the corn and sunflower >>> fields with a Killdeer. I am not familiar with sandpipers but ID's it from >>> a photo on the NYS DEC web site. Photo attached." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> This birder seems unaware of the prohibition on entering the property. I >>> don't believe there is a sign at either end prohibiting birding, so I don't >>> blame Anonymous Birder (Btw it was not an Upland Sandpiper). >>> >>> >>> The farm is now open for sunflower picking and a sunflower maze with a >>> fee of $5 pp, and to photographers for a fee of $30.00 an hour. >>> >>> >>> https://www.sunflowervalleyfarm.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> For those who don't know the location of Sunflower Valley Farm. >>> >>> >>> If you're go up Skinner's Lane (off CR 6 - Pulaski Highway >>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/6+-+Pulaski+Highway?entry=gmail&source=g>) >>> and continue on to Skinners Tract to its end and turn left on Iris Road >>> along the Wallkill River, at the end of this road there is a bridge on your >>> right. The property beyond that with a dirt road which continues to CR 12 - >>> Lower Road where the large silos are, is the property in question. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Liberty Lane which goes north on the opposite side of Oil City Road from >>> the parking lot at Wallkill River NWR is also private property and closed >>> to birders. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Please respect the owners' wishes. If birders are seen on these >>> properties, the owners may think it that members of the local Mearns Bird >>> Club are the ones trespassing, i.e. we will get the blame for you! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Please refer to the ABA Code of Birding Ethics which prohibits >>> trespassing on private property. >>> >>> >>> https://www.aba.org/aba-code-of-birding-ethics/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Ajit I Antony MD >>> >>> >>> E A Mearns Bird Club >>> >>> >>> Orange County, New York >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> NYSbirds-L List Info: >>> >>> >>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm >>> >>> >>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm >>> >>> >>> http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ARCHIVES: >>> >>> >>> 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html >>> >>> >>> 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L >>> >>> >>> 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Please submit your observations to eBird: >>> >>> >>> http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> "If you lie to the compiler, it will get its revenge" >> -- Henry Spencer >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> *NYSbirds-L List Info:* >> >> >> >> >> Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm> >> >> >> >> >> Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm> >> >> >> >> >> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave >> <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> >> >> >> >> >> *Archives:* >> >> >> >> >> The Mail Archive >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html> >> >> >> >> >> Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L> >> >> >> >> >> ABA <http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01> >> >> >> >> >> *Please submit your observations to **eBird* >> <http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>*!* >> >> >> >> >> -- >> > > > > > > > -- > > > > > *NYSbirds-L List Info:* > > > > > Welcome and Basics <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm> > > > > > Rules and Information <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm> > > > > > Subscribe, Configuration and Leave > <http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> > > > > > *Archives:* > > > > > The Mail Archive > <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html> > > > > > Surfbirds <http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L> > > > > > ABA <http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01> > > > > > *Please submit your observations to **eBird* > <http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>*!* > > > > > -- > > > > -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
