Independent of where this items belong to, the advice to only hand out tokens to authenticated clients is stronger as required by the core spec. There is a whole class of clients (native apps), which cannot keep secrets
for the purpose of authentication.

Moreover, what is the benefit of authenticating clients?

regards,
Torsten.

Am 13.12.2010 15:00, schrieb Brian Campbell:
I think James makes a good point here.

On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Manger, James H
<james.h.man...@team.telstra.com>  wrote:
I think these items shouldn't be in the bearer spec at all. They are about "getting a 
token", not about "using a bearer token" so they should be left to the core spec.

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James Manger


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From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian 
Campbell
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 1:38 PM
To: oauth
Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Couple questions on draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-01 security 
considerations

I know draft-ietf-oauth-v2-bearer-01 has been discussed a fair bit, however, a 
couple things jumped out at me in areas that hadn't received much attention yet 
so I wanted to raise the questions on a separate thread.

Near the end of section 3.2. Threat Mitigation, it says:

" Furthermore, the resource server MUST ensure that it only hands out
   tokens to clients it has authenticated first and authorized.  For
   this purpose, the client MUST be authenticated and authorized by the
   resource server. "

Was the intent here to say authorization server rather than resource server? 
The resource server doesn't hand out tokens. Also, aren't there legitimate 
cases where the client isn't authenticated (anonymous or other cases where the 
client can't keep secrets)?

Then it says:

"The authorization server MUST also receive a
   confirmation (the consent of the resource owner) prior to providing a
   token to the client."

Does this allow for implicit consent? On my first read of it, I interpret this 
as potentially being more restrictive than what is in
draft-ietf-oauth-v2-11

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