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> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Phil Hunt <phil.h...@oracle.com>
> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: OAuth 2.0 Mix-Up Mitigation
> Date: January 25, 2016 at 3:20:19 PM PST
> To: Nat Sakimura <sakim...@gmail.com>
> 
> I am having trouble with the very first assumption. The user-agent sets up a 
> non TLS protected connection to the RP? That’s a fundamental violation of 
> 6749.
> 
> Also, the second statement says the RP (assuming it acts as OAuth client) is 
> talking to two IDPs.  That’s still a multi-AS case is it not?
> 
> Phil
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>> On Jan 25, 2016, at 2:58 PM, Nat Sakimura <sakim...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:sakim...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Phil, 
>> 
>> Since I was not in Darmstadt, I really do not know what was discussed there, 
>> but with the compromised developer documentation described in 
>> http://nat.sakimura.org/2016/01/15/idp-mix-up-attack-on-oauth-rfc6749/ 
>> <http://nat.sakimura.org/2016/01/15/idp-mix-up-attack-on-oauth-rfc6749/>, 
>> all RFC6749 clients with a naive implementer will be affected. The client 
>> does not need to be talking to multiple IdPs. 
>> 
>> Nat
>> 
>> 2016年1月26日(火) 3:58 Phil Hunt (IDM) <phil.h...@oracle.com 
>> <mailto:phil.h...@oracle.com>>:
>> I recall making this point in Germany. 99% of existing use is fine. OIDC is 
>> probably the largest community that *might* have an issue.
>> 
>> I recall proposing a new security document that covers oauth security for 
>> dynamic scenarios. "Dynamic" being broadly defined to mean:
>> * clients who have configured at runtime or install time (including clients 
>> that do discovery)
>> * clients that communicate with more than one endpoint
>> * clients that are deployed in large volume and may update frequently (more 
>> discussion of "public" cases)
>> * clients that are script based (loaded into browser on the fly)
>> * others?
>> 
>> Phil
>> 
>> > On Jan 25, 2016, at 10:39, George Fletcher <gffle...@aol.com 
>> > <mailto:gffle...@aol.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > would
>> 
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