tergantung selera pak. Value-play konstruksi adhi, growth-play nya wika. Sy lg rd demen yg growth sih pak. Sukur2 dikasih murah jd Garp.
On 9/4/09, Febry Hariyannugraha <febry.hariyannugr...@gmail.com> wrote: > Mantaf Kang .. :) > Jadi ADHI boleh nih Kang ? > > 2009/9/3 Bagus Putra Perdana <disclosure....@gmail.com> > >> >> >> Baru dikit pak, masuk radarnya juga baru.. haha.. baru 2-3 tetes. jangan >> naek dulu lah. >> earning momentum-jump story aja pak. Headwindnya dari Industri yg mulai >> gerak diangkat suku bunga rendah en domestic exposure dr government >> spending. manajemen kasih rilis order book sesuai target lebih-lebih >> dikit. >> Booster momentumnya dari niche nya WIKA. bisnis modelnya sih diversified >> dan >> punya Niche di segmen pembangkit dan EPC. extra boosternya proyek luar >> negri >> meski marjinnya tipis tapi profit dan trennya meningkat, continous order, >> Skrg masih Sub nya Kajima tp ada kesempatan megang order sendiri. kemaren >> raised cash dr equity issuance di harga yg lumayan dan berarti ada kas >> internal capacity buat ekspansi. dan ekspansi yg cukup menarik ke aspal yg >> bisa produksi banyak. >> >> ada jeleknya jg sih pak. WIKA lebih mahal scr valuasi dr ADHI, dengan >> trade-off Profitabilitas dan pertumbuhan serta kualitas aset wika sedikit >> lebih baik dr adhi (adhi membukukan penyisihan yg lumayan di balance krn >> monorail dan proyek luar negri). yg masih perlu diperhatikan di langkah >> ekspansi wika, saya blon sempet ngorek2 ke manajemen mengenai langkahnya >> masuk ke batubara dan aspal dan berapa proyeksi IRR dan sensitifitasnya, >> tapi yg aspal sepintas cukup menarik sih, meski yg batubara sih rada2 >> konyol >> kayanya(latah). >> untuk pick konstruksi memang ADHI condong ke value-play en WIKA ke >> Growth-play. >> >> 1 hal lg yg saya belon pastikan (blon bikin proyeksi) adalah efek pajak di >> muka yg jadi 3% dari pendapatan, kecuali WIKA bisa inflate nilai proyeknya >> ini bisa nahan marjin. tapi jujur, valuasi WIKA yg sekilas agak mahal ini >> bisa berubah 180 derajat jadi murah hanya denagn 1-1.5% margin improvement >> di bottomline. dan amunisi untuk nipisin biaya en lebarin marjin bisa >> banget >> di tren penurunan harga en inflasi yg easing en lagi "IN" akhir2 ini. >> risiko >> downsidenya jg disitu berhubung marjin emg tipis kalo tiba2 ada gempuran >> inflasi ya kudu siap ngabur dr sektor ini. headwindnya sih nopang ke >> industri, tapi pick nya tergantung selera. WIKA agak mahal tp bisnis model >> sedikit lebih baik, Adhi sebaliknya. saya sih lg males urusan sama >> balance-sheet bermasalah jd lbh condong ke wika (rd males dig-in balance). >> WIKA kuat di Upside potential, smntra ADHI bisa kasih downside protection >> yg >> lebih OK krn MOS lebih besar. >> >> duh saya belun kerjain "homework" saya di WIKA pak., baru masukin dikit, >> niatnya sih di tune-in agak entaran ditambah sekalian kalo balance check >> en >> itungan pro forma jadi. tp ko udah rada rame disini yah. asem, santai >> ajalah, yg adem-adem aja juragan. slow slow dulu gitu... lebih murah lebih >> sip.. >> >> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:36 PM, JT™ <jsxtra...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> aha.., Kang Bagus juga lagi loading Wika..., cakep dah ! ..., >>> inpes...inpes.... :) >>> >>> Powered by TLKM BullBerry® >>> >>> “ Good Trade Comes To Those Who Wait “ >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> * >>> * >>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to >>> the >>> complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. 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