tambahan, posisi di porto gak usah dibuka untuk umum. kita percayain ke 1
orang aja untuk punya authority ngeliat posisi dari porto kita selain kita
sendiri yaitu mungkin embah. jadi gak akan ada coat-tailers.

yg dikasih ke publik akumulasi dan NAB nya aja. ato selisih dari modal awal.
gimana?

2010/3/17 Bagus Putra Perdana <disclosure....@gmail.com>

> kalo dibawah 100 juta susah implementasiin strateginya pak arsenal, segitu
> sih kayanya udah minimal banget. effortnya kan juga lumayan. dan angka
> segitu pasti amat sangat affordable buat semua expert disini (ato non expert
> juga bisa kan, bebas aja lah)
>
> it'd be fun and cool empirical observation.
>
> saya sendiri gak pernah bisa yakin kalo saya bisa kasih jaminan generate
> triple digit return, yg saya yakin dalam kapabilitas saya adalah manage duit
> dengan resiko terbatas tapi bisa kasih minimal 10% diatas benchmark. but i
> do know that some experts here can easily sway and reap triple digit of
> profit yearly. so it'd be great to witness the magic and examine the process
> into some kind of empirical studies.
>
>
>
> its always been a quest to all of us alpha-seeker. to consistently beat our
> benchmark by a sizable margin.
>
> it'd be fun and it'd be challenging. am i rite or no?
>
> its for the sake of knowledge and "investment truths", jadi semuanya pasti
> bisa berbesar hati dan enjoy ngelakuinnya.
>
>
>
> 2010/3/17 arsenal ruffinen <ind_g...@yahoo.com>
>
>
>>
>> 50-100 jt mah gede atuh kang kalo cuman buat fun dan implementasi virus I
>> tot u..hhhehe
>> Kagak ikutan ah
>>
>> Powered by aRSeNal BlackBerry®insyaallah nyambung terussssss!
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: * Bagus Putra Perdana <disclosure....@gmail.com>
>> *Date: *Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:18:32 +0700
>> *To: *<obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com>
>> *Subject: *Re: Bls: [ob] INCO.JK TIME ANALYSIS DONE! AND THE NEXT TRADE
>> STRATEGY
>>
>>
>>
>> Propose idea supaya gak ada polemik gini lagi, dan supaya fair & square on
>> the level field of play. coba aja dibikin rencana untuk pada ikut yg kaya
>> fitur i tot u di web pak DE, tapi biar asik pake duit riil aja semua buka di
>> 1 OLT atas nama masing2 jadi nanti pake akun yg post portfolio dan akumulasi
>> profit-lossnya terbuka yg bisa diakses publikasi posisinya oleh semua orang.
>> buka akun 50 juta - 100 juta doang kayanya udah bisa segala macem gaya deh.
>> for the sake of fun bisa, for the sake of pride bisa, dan ada duitnya (meski
>> gak banyak kalo bukanya cuman 100 juta).
>>
>> gimana? fair and square? sekalian bisa studi empiris. return 1 tahun,
>> diukur volatilitas, beta dan alpha generationnya. kalo beneran diadain saya
>> sendiri juga mau ikut.
>>
>> 2010/3/17 jsx_consultant <jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Pak Jacob,
>>>
>>> Yang anda keluhkan sebenarnya SAH SAH saja selama tidak ada
>>> orang yg bisa membuktikan ini TIDAK sah...
>>>
>>> Bursa adalah perang, jika pada perang biasa gainnya adalah TANAH
>>> maka pada perang bursa gainnya adalah DUIT...
>>>
>>> Serangan pada BBCA +11,5% sama dengan serangan Jepang ke Pearl
>>> Harbor ?.
>>>
>>> - Apakah Jepang mendapatkan TANAH Hawai saat melumpuhkan Armada
>>> Pacific Amerika ?
>>> - Apakah BD dapat DUIT ketika menyerang BBCA +11,5 ?.
>>>
>>> Dalam perang, taktik dan strategi dipakai agar bisa mendapatkan
>>> TANAH dan DUIT SEBANYAK BANYAKnya...
>>>
>>> Jadi jangan bilang BD licik, itu semua adalah TAKTIK, selama
>>> taktik yg digelar TIDAK melanggar Konvensi Geneva tentang perang,
>>> itu SAH SAH saja.
>>>
>>> Kalo tidak sah, anda bisa laporkan ama Bapepam...
>>>
>>> Note:
>>> - Jepang menyerang Amerika TANPA pemberitahuan dulu, jadi
>>> ini adalah KEJAHATAN PERANG dalam perang...
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com <obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>,
>>> "Jacob®" <rxbk1...@...> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Soal cela mencela (kritik yang membangun) dan I tot U...menurut ane sih
>>> OK2 saja, nothing fancy!!! Paling kalau capek juga berhenti.
>>> >
>>> > Yang ane paling tidak habis pikir adalah ULAH MARKET MAKER/BOZZ/BANDAR
>>> atau Mafia Bursa....masa BBCA yang sudah overpriced masih saja dinaikan
>>> harganya lebih dari 10 % ???.
>>> >
>>> > What do they really want? A window dressing? A tricky game? (untuk
>>> menjebak retailers) or to manipulate Index???
>>> >
>>> > (Bandar bilang, suka-suka gue, mau gue naikin kek, mau gue turunin kek,
>>> got nothing to do with you)
>>> >
>>> > Hehehe............
>>> >
>>> > Sent from ‎​ Jαçðß ‎​™
>>>
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: rina mayapada <rina.ban...@...>
>>> > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:40:02
>>> > To: <obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com <obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>
>>> >
>>> > Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] INCO.JK TIME ANALYSIS DONE! AND THE NEXT TRADE
>>> STRATEGY
>>> >
>>> > Iya Bro dan Sis, bener kata Mbah tuh. Jangan pada berantem dong.
>>> > Seharusnya kan hari ini pada full senyum, kan jemuran udah disamber
>>> > orang semua, he.. he..
>>> >
>>> > On 3/17/10, jsx_consultant <jsx-consult...@...> wrote:
>>> > > Entar yg mencela melulu tinggal di BAN !!!
>>> > >
>>> > > Tapi yg merasa dicela juga mohon agar tidak kebanyakan I TOT YOU,
>>> > > karena yg namanya Analis, Engineer dan expert lainnya punya EGO
>>> > > profesionalisme yg KUAT.
>>> > >
>>> > > Expert technical atau Financial dimana mana sering berantem,
>>> > > bukan berantem soal pribadi tapi berantem karena PRIDE atas
>>> > > keilmuan/kemahiran/expertisenya.
>>> > >
>>> > > Embah ingat dulu ada Berantem yg legendaris yaitu antara pak
>>> > > Irwan dan pak Poltak, ini dua duanya suhu embah. Jadi
>>> > > berantem soal keilmuan itu biasa dan SEHAT, tapi engga
>>> > > boleh pake emosi dan saling menjelekkan. Dan penonton juga
>>> > > engga boleh manas manasin...hehehe...
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com<obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>,
>>> D0N Qicot <o5ana_indonesia@>
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> wuah... cape dech..
>>> > >> kalo orang berbaik hati .. di cela mulu...
>>> > >>
>>> > >> mulai dari JT, A9, Tasrul, KC, SW, HK, HS...
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Tinggal Embah sama DE aja yg belon di gerecokin...
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> regards,
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> DonQicot
>>> > >> UNTR gowes ke NoBan !!
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>________________________________
>>> > >> From: Yoenoez <ybisnis10@>
>>> > >> To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com<obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com>
>>> > >> Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 4:08:08 PM
>>> > >> Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] INCO.JK TIME ANALYSIS DONE! AND THE NEXT
>>> TRADE
>>> > >> STRATEGY
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Waduw...ada tanding tinju lagi...nonton. .. ah
>>> > >> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>>>
>>> > >> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
>>> > >>________________________________
>>> > >>
>>> > >> From: David Lau <dj_davi...@yahoo. com>
>>> > >> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:42:18 +0800 (SGT)
>>> > >> To: <obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com>
>>> > >> Subject: Bls: [ob] INCO.JK TIME ANALYSIS DONE! AND THE NEXT TRADE
>>> STRATEGY
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Minggirrrr mingggirrrr. ...!!
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Jangan deket2...! ntar kena bacook...!!
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Regards,...
>>> > >> DvDâ„¢
>>>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> "Cuan Rame-Rame, Nyangkut Sendiri-Sendiri"
>>> > >>________________________________
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>________________________________
>>> > >> Dari: JsxTrader <jsxtra...@yahoo. com>
>>> > >> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
>>> > >> Terkirim: Rab, 17 Maret, 2010 15:37:24
>>> > >> Judul: Re: [ob] INCO.JK TIME ANALYSIS DONE! AND THE NEXT TRADE
>>> STRATEGY
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Jangan dipisahin... .....
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>________________________________
>>> > >> From: "kokol...@yahoo. co.id" <kokol...@yahoo. co.id>
>>> > >> To: Milis OB <obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com>
>>> > >> Sent: Wed, March 17, 2010 3:30:19 PM
>>> > >> Subject: Re: [ob] INCO.JK TIME ANALYSIS DONE! AND THE NEXT TRADE
>>> STRATEGY
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Cape deh..kalo ada analisa yang bener di update, kalo ada analisa
>>> yang ga
>>> > >> bener, di suruh baca lagi yang teliti..
>>> > >> Dari dulu kok kalo ada yang minta konfirmasi ga pernah di jawab
>>> cheng?,
>>> > >> pertanyaan pak hmin ttg GBP aja sampe sekarang ga di jawab..belum
>>> lagi
>>> > >> postingan yg laen..fair dikit napa cheng?
>>> > >> Cape klo bolak balik di suruh baca teliti..
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Sent from my BlackBerry® not powered by Bakrie Group
>>>
>>> > >>________________________________
>>> > >>
>>> > >> From: Kwee Cheng <kwee.ch...@yahoo. com>
>>> > >> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:22:13 +0800 (SGT)
>>> > >> To: <obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com>
>>> > >> Subject: Re: [ob] INCO.JK TIME ANALYSIS DONE! AND THE NEXT TRADE
>>> STRATEGY
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Bpk Kokolato
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Silahkan dibaca lebih teliti agar tidak ada kesalahan dalam
>>> > >> menginterprestasika n analisa kami. Terima kasih, Tuhan memberkati.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> CLICK HERE
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Salam Kasih
>>> > >> Gema
>>> > >> www.stocksforliving .com
>>> > >>
>>> > >> --- Pada Rab, 17/3/10, kokol...@yahoo. co.id <kokol...@yahoo. co.id
>>> >
>>> > >> menulis:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >> >Dari: kokol...@yahoo. co.id <kokol...@yahoo. co.id>
>>> > >> >Judul: Re: [ob] INCO.JK TIME ANALYSIS DONE! AND THE NEXT TRADE
>>> STRATEGY
>>> > >> >Kepada: "Milis OB" <obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com>
>>> > >> >Tanggal: Rabu, 17 Maret, 2010, 8:14 AM
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >Adro nya ga jadi cheng???
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >Sent from my BlackBerry® not powered by Bakrie Group
>>>
>>> > >>________________________________
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >From: Kwee Cheng <kwee.ch...@yahoo. com>
>>> > >> >Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:03:06 +0800 (SGT)
>>> > >> >To: <obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com>
>>> > >> >Subject: [ob] INCO.JK TIME ANALYSIS DONE! AND THE NEXT TRADE
>>> STRATEGY
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >Tuesday, 09 March 2010 02:21
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >POINT OF VIEW
>>> > >> >INCO.JK Next destination
>>> > >> >Time and Price Square schedule
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >Comment
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >INCO.JK has probability to moves stronger. It may reaches an
>>> immediate
>>> > >> > resistance at 4.200 â€" 4.300 on Mar 15 â€" 18 or Mar 23
>>> â€" 24, then
>>> > >> > Major Resistance at 4.500 â€" 4.600 on Apr 29 â€" May 5.
>>>
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >FULL ARTICLE CLICK HERE
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >NEXT TRADING STRATEGY, HOLD until Vernal Equinox March 21. Kalo ada
>>> lower
>>> > >> > low boleh t/p 50%.
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >Have a good trade
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >Salam Kasih
>>> > >> >Gema
>>> > >> >www.stocksforliving .com
>>> > >> >
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>>
>> --
>> Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the
>> complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact,
>> everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that
>> we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only
>> to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected.......The test of all
>> knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”.
>> - Richard Feynman
>>   
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the
> complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact,
> everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that
> we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only
> to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected.......The test of all
> knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”.
> - Richard Feynman
>



-- 
Each piece, or part, of the whole nature is always an approximation to the
complete truth, or the complete truth so far as we know it. In fact,
everything we know is only some kind of approximation, because we know that
we do not know all the laws as yet. Therefore, things must be learned only
to be unlearned again or, more likely, to be corrected.......The test of all
knowledge is experiment. Experiment is the sole judge of scientific “truth”.
- Richard Feynman

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