ikutan sharing ya...
saya juga newbie, ikutan nimbrung
kan katanya sekarang saham komoditi lagi di turunin, maksudnya biar 
pengusaha pada napas lega dan perekonomian jalan lagi.
jadi itu mengapa beberapa ari ini indeks merah sendiri. katanya seh 
gara2 margin call, sy juga nga jelas apaan itu sebenernya.
yang pasti bener kata para tetua2 yang lain, harga saham komoditi 
udah ketinggian, makanya nyemplung semua. setelah semua ditarik turun 
pada harga normal, mulai deh naik harga2 saham yang basis 
fundamentalnya kuat. gitu. 
once again just sharing....
thanks.
for elaine, cool abis dah.
 
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Eka Suwandana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Tahukah anda mba EL saya selama Januari-Feb kerjaan CUT LOSS mlulu! 
Sampai keluar total awal Februari sisain cuma 6 lot MEDC sedikit 
INCO. Sekarang walaupun TBLA favorite saya dulu , dan sudah keluarkan 
result 2007 diatas expektasi 97M (yg artinya tahun ini bisa 150-
160M)...udah malaas beli.
>   Dari awal tahun sampai sekarang ada perasaan nggak enak mulai 
dari APBN negeri ini yg defisit, inflasi kasat mata tinggi. Perasaan 
macam Tora Sudiro liat Aming muncul di Extravaganza........."feeling 
nggak enak deh!"
>   So 2 bulan terakhir ini saya fokus di US (lumayan saya portofolio 
separuh ditaruh di IMAX liat newsnya!), di Indonesia sepertinya SBY 
bakal mengulang kesalahan sama seperti 2005. Rupiah nggak 
ngangkat...sebulan lalu lalu saya beli Malaysian Ringgit buat nonton 
GP F1, 1MYR masih kisaran 2700, ketika balik saya tukar kurs beli 
sudah 2900 kurs jual 3000. Sementara regional money naik kita melemah 
terus! Selama di KL saya baca "The SUN" disana pun minyak goreng 
murah dan gula hilang di pasar, problem yg sama dgn kita.....CUMA 
disana Ringgit menguat!
>    
>   Minggu lalu saudara saya yg bisnis oplos BBM, gudang BBMnya 
digerebek di bandung saya bersyukur mungkin SMS ke SBY di 
dengar.....But I hope the mastermind people who back the business can 
be caught!
> 
> Elaine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>           Banyak member baru di OB, Embah? Elaine mau share reason 
Elaine ada di OB, maybe some of you didn't follow the story from the 
beginning. Ini hanya share bukan mau sombong atau apa, jadi jangan 
marah dulu.
> 
> Jadi ini awalnya..
> 
> IDX was trying to recover after January Crash, as BUMI reached its 
all time high at 8000 something. Most analysts "upgrade" their target 
for most commodity stocks and everybody were happy at that time. Then 
a long-time-no-see senior, Fred Schubert, showed up and giving 
"hopes" that some big funds would try to jack up share prices and 
bring IDX to 3000 (in March!)
> 
> Since many traders got severely beaten up by the January Crash, his 
appearance in OB was refreshing and filling their hopes.
> http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/63115
> 
> Someone asked about his stock picks (market drivers). Well this is 
where it all got started. Fred started to give "targets" and people 
were buoyed with them. A good friend of mine forwarded his email to 
me, asking for comment. I said this is not right. I felt urged to 
come back, because I knew they were all misleading. 
> 
> Most commodities were in their peaks and BUMI (and other miners) is 
too overweighted in IDX, anytime it has trouble it will surely DRAG 
the entire market (as Embah said too)
> http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/63151
> 
> I came back, nicely, with a smile too. I politely (well.. kinda ^^) 
asked him to reverse all his statements, cuz I know he's a well 
respected member of OB. Then the chaos begin.
> http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/63240
> 
> Lihat sendiri saja. ^^ Siapa berani "hajar" Fred Schubert, kalau 
bukan Elaine..hihi.. NOT as a person, tapi subject messagenya. Tentu 
Elaine mengerti pasti fans Fred akan marah dan caci maki Elaine, tapi 
tidak apa. Elaine mengerti sekali kondisi saat itu. Lots of traders 
suffered huge loss in January and then I came and ruined their hope. 
Tapi Elaine pikir akan lebih depressed sekarang jika Elaine tidak 
muncul di OB, malah bisa commit suicide kalau pakai leveraged margin.
> 
> Ada tanya kenapa Elaine tidak kasih analisa detail. Well, karena 
informasi Elaine punya sifat un-official, atau insider. Seperti FR 
BUMI, kalau Elaine describe detailed sebelum official release, akan 
jadi masalah hukum dan Embah nanti yang masalah dengan authority. 
Seperti Oentoeng juga pasti mengerti hal ini. Jadi dari awal cuma 
bisa bilang "The earth shatters". This may sound arrogant, but we 
usually get information before it's available to public. I've 
described what and how I work, I guess I don't have to explain it 
again, after all it will make you miss the whole point.
> 
> Kalau ada tanya kenapa Elaine repot kasih warning? Let's just say 
I'm helping a friend (and some other reason). Elaine mengerti banyak 
yang curiga sama Elaine dan Elaine terima perbedaan opini selama 
tidak serang as person. Justru Elaine curiga Fred ganti ID dan serang 
Elaine diam-diam ^^ 
> 
> Saran sedikit, jika memang tidak suka cut loss, bisa averaging or 
switch to long term investment. Elaine tidak harus dipercaya, jadi 
hanya confirmation against your own analysis. Cheer up ^^ It's not 
the end of the world, come on.. :)
> 
> Elaine
>


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